[TYPO3-typo3org] documentation / Jive

Kasper Skårhøj kasper2006 at typo3.com
Wed Oct 18 01:19:27 CEST 2006


I'm exploring ideas about how to make all of this independant of  
slow, manual administration and get it into the hands of the organic  
self-organisation of the fast community.

- kasper


On Oct 18, 2006, at 0:24 , Alex Heizer wrote:

> Kasper Skårhøj wrote:
>> On categories; Today, in blogging, I understand that people "tag"
>> content with manually written keywords which form a "folksonomy"; a
>> sort of implicitly agreed to set of categories. (Please correct me
>> where I'm wrong).
>>
>
> True, and we can assign arbitrary keywords to each "article" in the  
> KB.
> This would definitely help people be able to find what they need
> (assuming we can put in good keywords!!! :)  Also, we can track in the
> stats what people are looking for, which will also help us keep things
> put into the most intuitive place for the majority of the community.
>
>
>> Why not apply a similar organic approach to extension categorization?
>> We could even let the TER users apply categories and not extension
>> owners! That might be even more userfriendly in the long run (along
>> the view that an insiders understanding doesn't match how an end-user
>> thinks about things).
>>
>> - aksper
>>
>
> That's probably the best way to do it, based on my experience with end
> users. Often what is incredibly obvious to developers (what --- can't
> you *see* that????) is less than intuitive to end users (and vice  
> versa,
> of course). Not that either is "wrong", just that these changing
> perspectives can create some interesting possibilities when we're open
> to them.
>
> But which should follow which? Should we take the stats from Jive  
> about
> visitors' viewing patterns and update the TER as appropriate? Or  
> should
> we keep Jive updated to changes in the TER? I'm not sure which is  
> easier
> to keep updated, Jive is about as easy to update as page records in  
> the
> T3 BE, but I don't know about the inner workings of the TER (I'm
> assuming it's just as easy?)
>
> Alex
>
>
>> On Oct 17, 2006, at 20:00 , Patrick Gaumond wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Alex Heizer wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> For now, I need to set up the categories in the BE, and I'll use  
>>>> the
>>>> categories that Chris Paige had set up on the initial typo3.us  
>>>> effort
>>>> (see  http://test.typo3.us/index.php?id=45 ) just to get us
>>>> started. If
>>>> anyone has any other recommendations, feel free to chime in on
>>>> this, the
>>>> categories are very dynamic, so it doesn't have to be perfect the
>>>> first
>>>> time. I just want to get something up quickly so we can start  
>>>> adding
>>>> content and get it in approximately the right place and I think  
>>>> what
>>>> Chris did is a great foundation to start with. It can be refined
>>>> as we
>>>> go and see what works and what doesn't.
>>>>
>>> Another place to look for categories is the page on the wiki that I
>>> setup this summer to get some feedback on TER categories.
>>>
>>> http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Extensionscategories
>>>
>>>
>>> I've added the list Michael sent me in September.
>>>
>>> Patrick
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>>
>> - kasper
>>
>> "Necessity is the mother of invention"
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