[TYPO3-hci] Better handling of TCE-forms

[Jens Hoffmann]

Hy,

Sorry, but this doesn't sounds like a HCI task. It sounds like
a technical problem and should be discussed at the DEV list.
I'm sure the is/was some logical reason for the JS solution.
I don't think I'm the right guy for this topic.

What I could say to the forms in the BE:

1. The Forms are bad/not good grouped.
2. Some of them got really bad wording/topics.
3. The Checkbox in front of a input field is very easy to missanderstand.
4. The "Second/Advanced Options" should be drawn inline.
5. I'm missing, self explaining error messages for the validation.
6. No API for the form generation .. so devs. are able to create custom solutions.
    This is quite bad! Because we get an inconsistent Backend over extensions.

HCI is generally not about code :)
But I will give Benny a hint.

Greez Jens


Franz Koch wrote:
> Hi Jens, hi list,
> 
>> PS: If you like to clean up little things, post it to the list ... 
>> NOW! :) 
> 
> I take you by the word Jens and have a little feature wish - but I'm not 
> sure how easy it will be to implement.
> 
> Currently, the TCE-forms use quite a lot of JavaScript - and some of it 
> is quite unnecessary and sometimes annoying. I f.e. don't understand why 
> all values of input fields get filled in the form with JavaScript and 
> are not directly written in the code. For me, this is a) a unnecessary 
> JS overhead and b) sometimes quite annoying when I start editing a field 
> a bit to early (before the page is completely loaded) and the changes 
> get overwritten again.
> The next thing that annoys me is, that some changes in the fields are 
> not recognized by the JS and thus not saved. Example:
> I write a headline and save the form. Some time later I change the 
> headline and save the form. Then I notice - the old headline was better, 
> so I erase the text in the headline field, start typing, the browser 
> gives me auto completion suggestions from my earlier values of this 
> field, I select one, save the form and the field is stored empty.
> So the JS doesn't react on auto completed values (Firefox - didn't check 
> in other browsers). I suppose TCE forms does only store values written 
> to a hidden field with JS - but what for? Why this useless overhead 
> (again)? The JS validation can also be done without it.
> 
> Is there a chance to change this?
> 
> -- 
> Greetings,
> Franz Koch