[TYPO3-hci] ajax and conservative skins?
Andreas Balzer
eMail at andreas-balzer.de
Wed Jun 14 20:21:44 CEST 2006
Kasper Skårhøj schrieb:
> What you suggest sounds possible with MVC implemented. For 5.0 I'm quite
> certain this is the way we will go. Maybe for 4.5 we will allow an AJAX
> dependant backend (thereby moving further away from GET/POST and lynx
> and blind people etc...)
"therby moving further away from GET/Post and lynx and blind people
etc..." Isn't exactly that just the main thing we don't want to do (move
away from usuability)?
Andreas
>
> - kasper
>
>
> On Jun 13, 2006, at 22:20 , Andreas Balzer wrote:
>
>> I first like to quote from the wiki:
>>> When discussing concrete solutions we will need to know what
>>> requirements to compatibility we operate within: (R&D committee has
>>> final decision on this): All features must run in these browsers
>>> regardless of platform (Kaspers suggestion):
>>>
>>> * Konqueror (latest stable)
>>> * Safari (latest stable)
>>> * Mozilla/Firefox (1.xx+?)
>>> * MSIE (6.xx+?)
>>>
>>> Two-track principle for all basic functionality:
>>>
>>> * Modern, AJAX whistle and bells (client validated) [inaccessible,
>>> unreliable - but fun and fluent]
>>> * Conservative GET/POST (server validated) [accessible - but
>> boring >and slow]
>>>
>>> Problems:
>>>
>>> * Typical ActiveX/JavaScript/security/firewall settings that could
>>> prevent features will require a fall back solutions?
>>>
>>> Backend Accessibility (blind people etc)?
>>> http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/atag.php
>>
>> Well, what would you think about, if just the skin "plattform" would be
>> changed? I mean not creating a skin that is only able to run in ajax
>> capable browsers, but including classes for skins to use ajax. So just
>> splitting the content output and input of BE into two areas:
>> + use of ajax
>> + use of GET/Post
>>
>> If we would do this, i think there would be many new skins. Of course we
>> could create an official ajax skin, but i think for 4.5 it's not
>> really needed. We could invent a new skin for 5.0.
>>
>> By the way: I think, that __the server should__ validate all input data,
>> not the unsecure browser.
>>
>> Greetings
>> Andreas
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>
> - kasper
>
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