[TYPO3-ect] Eclipse Plugin Development Status

[ries van Twisk]

On Sep 21, 2007, at 4:52 AM, Elmar Hinz wrote:

> Michael wrote:
>
>
>> Maybe I have to get used to PDT and remote debugging is nice but  
>> as long
>> as people here looking for something more productive than vim I won't
>> switch immediately. ;-)
>>
>> Michael
>
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> that sounds very ironical. But in fact an IDE has to be very good,  
> to beat
> vims productivity. I have tested different and finally switched  
> back to vim
> each time. But I am open for a "modern" IDE in the moment it can  
> compete.
>
> Each IDE that can't be controlled fully without a mouse is a lame one.
> Moving your hand between mouse and keyboard all the day, is a very  
> time
> consuming process. A mouse is nice to support beginners, but really
> expensive for professionals. Eclipse supports full keybord editing  
> more or
> less, but there are still to many other weak points.
>

I don't know much about vim at all.......
But how does vim handle these items:

  - DDL design for databases (graphically)
  - Subversion control
  - grouping files into projects
  - Reporting tools like bird
  - debugging (PHP, flex, java)
  - DB connections to quickly query databases
  - Adobe Flex designs

The reason I ask because like me, and properly many other we use
Eclipse because we don't want to switch many different programs
to do a task.

Eclipse can do a lot of tasks in one tool so me (we?) don't have to  
happen
a lot of programs to do what each program can do best.
I know that Eclipse is not the best for all tools, but it does
do a good job doing what it can do. without opening a lot of programs
on my desktop.

I can imagine that if you only do PHP and related text file editing
then vim might be best...

I seriously tried vim... But I start to get lost already
when I need to copy a block of date to a other file.
At least in eclipse it's just command-x / command-v.

And I did end up using vim when I want to do something remotely only.

not trying to rant....

Ries


>
> Regards
>
> Elmar
>