[TYPO3-ect] Eclipse Plugin Development Status

[Michael]

> Bah, Integration. You have always two options, either to use the best tool
> for at task or the integrated tool. I personally prefer to use the best
> one. They are all integrated into my desktop and keystroke away. 

Yeah and if you are consequent you use separate computers for every 
task. (In fact a lot of us will do so with some kind of VM to test with 
IE6 and IE7 but that won't go with my sarcasm this time ;) )
Sometimes I don't need the "best" tool because I gain more productivity 
by using an integrated one (less switching, less learning,...).

> Integration sounds like Netscape 4.0x. Everybody I know would prefer
> standalone Firefox or similar.

Of course but where do you want to draw the line? A browser does not 
need a RSS reader, a mail program does not need NNTP support but 
sometimes it's nice to have different things in one place.
I also like that I don't have to use separate programs for all my FF 
extensions. Of course I can use the best for every task but finally they 
are integrated in my browser. This plugin system is pretty similar to 
eclipse.
BTW, things like roundtrip engineering require (more or less) one single 
program but in the end it is all a matter of interfaces and standards.

> Right, because PHP editors can't offer those context sensitive like Java
> IDE. That's hard to beat. One big point for java. 

It's more a big point for the IDE. The Eclipse plugins have some of 
these features but not all of them. What I really miss is a poweful 
refactoring tool.
The big point of java is the power of strict OOP.
BTW, I'm playing around with the MVC framework and I really like that 
Typo3 is moving in this direction but is there a reason why the lib/div 
classes do not use modifiers for the members and methods? Maybe I 
haven't understood it right but is there any need to violate encapsulation?
Independent from that thanks for the great work!
As a spoiled Struts/JSF developer I really appreciate the approach even 
though I miss my taglibs. ;-)

    Michael