[TYPO3-ect] Eclipse Plugin Development Status

[Philip Almeida]

"Vi" is different.
My personal experience in the IT departments I have worked says one thing:
Vi is used by the best IT professional (systems, programing, you name it).
I am sure "*Linus* Benedict Torvalds" will tell us that vi is still the
best.

Must be difficult to find a bug in vi in eclipse there are probably
millions.

For me, a 29 year old web fool vi doesn't have a mouse and all the things
Twisk mentioned but I have the deepest respect for vi users i believe their
code is generally more clean and bug free than the new ide movement  which i
integrate.

break;

On 9/21/07, ries van Twisk <typo3 at rvt.dds.nl> wrote:
>
>
> On Sep 21, 2007, at 4:52 AM, Elmar Hinz wrote:
>
> > Michael wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Maybe I have to get used to PDT and remote debugging is nice but
> >> as long
> >> as people here looking for something more productive than vim I won't
> >> switch immediately. ;-)
> >>
> >> Michael
> >
> >
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > that sounds very ironical. But in fact an IDE has to be very good,
> > to beat
> > vims productivity. I have tested different and finally switched
> > back to vim
> > each time. But I am open for a "modern" IDE in the moment it can
> > compete.
> >
> > Each IDE that can't be controlled fully without a mouse is a lame one.
> > Moving your hand between mouse and keyboard all the day, is a very
> > time
> > consuming process. A mouse is nice to support beginners, but really
> > expensive for professionals. Eclipse supports full keybord editing
> > more or
> > less, but there are still to many other weak points.
> >
>
> I don't know much about vim at all.......
> But how does vim handle these items:
>
>   - DDL design for databases (graphically)
>   - Subversion control
>   - grouping files into projects
>   - Reporting tools like bird
>   - debugging (PHP, flex, java)
>   - DB connections to quickly query databases
>   - Adobe Flex designs
>
> The reason I ask because like me, and properly many other we use
> Eclipse because we don't want to switch many different programs
> to do a task.
>
> Eclipse can do a lot of tasks in one tool so me (we?) don't have to
> happen
> a lot of programs to do what each program can do best.
> I know that Eclipse is not the best for all tools, but it does
> do a good job doing what it can do. without opening a lot of programs
> on my desktop.
>
> I can imagine that if you only do PHP and related text file editing
> then vim might be best...
>
> I seriously tried vim... But I start to get lost already
> when I need to copy a block of date to a other file.
> At least in eclipse it's just command-x / command-v.
>
> And I did end up using vim when I want to do something remotely only.
>
> not trying to rant....
>
> Ries
>
>
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Elmar
> >
>
>
>
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>
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