[TYPO3-ect] lib/div 1.0 - it's time to say thank you

[R. van Twisk]

Elmar HInz wrote:
>> Hey Elmar,
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>> today I took a quick glance at the tx_lib library and tx_div library...
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>> tx_div seems to be very minimalistic and provides almost the same 
>> functions as
>> t3lib_div:: I currently don't see a real advantage of tx_lib, specially 
>> that api_macmade
>> as a magnitude more usefull functions (+16000 downloads....)
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> Hi Ries,
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> I need to say that such a remark make me a little angry. Why did we start
> the Extension Coordination Team? Because extensions like api_macmade,
> obts, kb_shop, ameos_formidable etc. are all full of experience and
> usefull concepts. But they are all one man shows and don't work together.
> We don't need a million of incompatible extensions in TER but a few
> hundred of compatible ones. So we started ECT as a forum to bring the best
> concepts of the best together and to improve the TYPO3 project as a whole. 
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Hey Elmar,

didn't wan't to make you angry, in my mind I was just wondering why we 
couldn't join
forces with already existing great extensions, invite this people over.

My sinsire apologizes for making you feel like that...

But then again I am not to involved into ECT...
Would it be a good idea to make a interface from tx_div to several 
extension?



> But did you ever see Jerome Schneider, Dan Frost, Bernhard Kraft,
> Jean-David Gadina, Rupert Germann, just as a few examples for others,
> taking up this chance joinig the team, searching for common guidelines,
> interfaces etc.? I didn't. Obviously they prefer their one man show to the
> benefit of the whole.
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very much true I am afraid...... Which is a bad thing as a whole for 
typo3 (to much duplicates).
> Is this the nature of extension developers? Are they all unable to do the
> minimum of self organization? Isn't there a way? See the long list of
> subscribers to ECT: http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Ect. Now, who has
> contributed to the common library so far? 2 people, Franz Holzinger and
> me. lib and div are on the common extension developer platform typo3xdev
> for over 6 monthes now!!!!
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what could be the reason for that?

I do see a really good point of heaving one good library (tx_div and 
tx_lib) unfortunately
it is to difficult for the core team to accept anything to core 
(t3lib_div that is). That's why
so many people made there own efford to bring something out.

> Kasper has asked me to take up the leadership of ECT. But I am rather
> frustrated meanwhile seing this big crowed of egocentrics in the extension
> developers scene. I will give it a chance another 6 monthes. If the
> situation hasn't changed fundumentally, I will likely resign from this
> task.
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I can understand this very well... But I didn't try to be egocentric..
I think some people outside of core do have some very very good ideas 
including me
 (that happens sometimes!) may be we can talk about that sometimes over 
skype?
Feel free to contact me off list to see what we can do?

> Please remind that there are also very positive examples: party framework,
> calendar base, extension comparison project ...
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calendar base rocks... that is true
> Regards
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