[TYPO3-core] TYPO3 CMS fork on github, project name "Catharsis"

[Steffen Gebert]

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Hi Fedir,

thanks for your comments

> * Actual gerrit system has quite important latency
You mean the site is responding slowly? I'm sorry for that, we have a
service going crazy in another VM on the same physical server which
consumes up a lot of resource. We hope to sort out that problem really
soon. Unfortunately just disabling it is no option. So usually Gerrit is
(IMHO, tell me if I'm wrong) pretty fast.

> * There are tickets on Forge with solutions, which exists since
several years
So sb. has to pick it up and throw it into review.

> * TYPO3 Association has not enough Project Managers
Not sure, if I agree.

> * There are lots of tickets in Forge, which should be commited long
time ago
Isn't this the same as above? So throw it into review. Everybody can do
this (since 2007). Once in review, it is, of course, fault of the lack
of man power inside the core team that the issues get stuck.

> * People have limited lifetime, they like to live now
> * There are lots of frameworks which are pretty cool
> * TYPO3 has great architectural concepts
> * Realisation of TYPO3 could be better
> * Big system good functioning needs goods organization
getting esoteric..

> = Propositions to TYPO3 project managers =
who do you think are these "project managers"? You mean core team
leader, release manager? They're (mostly) working unpaid.

> * Believe in community
I think we all do. Otherwise we/they wouldn't spend so many time for the
community.

> * Make TYPO3 Developer Days free as a beer
I'd say that's a great idea, but who pays for that? Code sprints are
covered by Association money, so if you really come to do work, you
(can) get invited.

> * Answer to every Forge ticket in 24h
Nice idea.. but there aren't 20 employees working full-time. I know that
our response times are subject to improvement, but it's just the way it
is: man-power is limited. Get involved, share your knowledge and respond
to tickets. That's how you can start improving the situation.

Btw. why are you using diff files in times of Git^^

In case some of my answers sound rude: I mean all of them positive. But
often there's the wrong impression that the TYPO3 Association is a
company having hundreds of employees that should deliver a 24/7 service.

Kind regards
Steffen

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On 4/13/13 3:32 PM, Fedir RYKHTIK wrote:
> Hi guys !
> 
> I thinks it's juste perfect. It's goes completely well with the idea of
> Open Source. We have a right to be free and to do what is inspiring us.
> 
> = I like the idea to fork, just it should be intelligent fork =
> 
> Personally I think lots of stuff, and it's some complicated to express
> all the thought in this post, but I will try to be constructive and to
> express my thoughts, so You could make synthesis Your side.
> 
> = Some thoughts =
> 
> * Actual gerrit system has quite important latency
> * There are tickets on Forge with solutions, which exists since several
> years
> * TYPO3 Association has not enough Project Managers
> * There are lots of tickets in Forge, which should be commited long time
> ago
> * People have limited lifetime, they like to live now
> * There are lots of frameworks which are pretty cool
> * TYPO3 has great architectural concepts
> * Realisation of TYPO3 could be better
> * Big system good functioning needs goods organization
> 
> = Propositions to TYPO3 project managers =
> 
> * Believe in community
> * Use agile methodologies
> * Make TYPO3 Developer Days free as a beer
> * Answer to every Forge ticket in 24h
> 
> = Propositions to forkers =
> 
> * Use automatic patches instead of blind forking
> * Make forks together, find teams who wants the same
> * Mark on TYPO3 Forge all adjustments, which You make on Your fork
> 
> Personally, I had a lot of patches on TYPO3 Core, which are used on our
> sites, and each time when there is a core update, I make diff and I
> patch the official version. In such way You could personalize TYPO3, and
> to keep compatibility with official trunk. I'm trying to share
> adjustments with Core or Extensions.
> 
> My Best Regards,
> Fedir
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