[TYPO3-core] RFC #14545: [No Title] shown when editing a record on root level

[Reinhard Führicht]

Am 2010-06-05 22:22, schrieb Steffen Gebert:
> Am 02.06.2010, 10:56 Uhr, schrieb Reinhard Führicht <rf at typoheads.at>:
>
>> Bugtracker references:
>> http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=14545
>>
>> Branches: trunk
>
>> I propose the following solution to fix not only the problem the
>> original poster of the bug pointed out, but to provide a more general
>> solution for the "headline chaos":
>>
>> When creating a new record, the label will be: Create new [tablename]
>> When editing a record it will be: Edit [recordtitle]
>
> Sorry for the delay, Reinhard.
>
> It's not the solution as desired. The page title should always be
> printed out on top of TCEform.



Hi Steffen.

Why is this the desired solution? What's the advantage of displaying the 
page title there (without any further descriptive label)?
In my view, this only confuses users, even confused me until I figured 
it out. If you ask me, it makes no sense to display the page title there.

Examples:

- You create a new page inside the root page (not pid:0, but the page 
"Home" of the website). On top of the page the title of the parent page, 
in this case "Home". Why would this be a desired solution?

- You create/edit a record. On top of the page, the title of the page 
will be shown. I'm not interested in the title of the page the record 
will be stored on. I can see it by searching for the highlighted page in 
the page tree. I want to see something like "You are editing the record 
xyz" or "You are creating a new xyz".

I don't want to sound too harsh. I just don't understand the intention 
behind the way it is done currently. Could you please explain it too me?


>
> Think we should just hide [No title], when we're on pid 0 or create a
> new page - or are there other cases, too?

I guess not.

> Will come up with a patch, hopefully tomorrow.
>
> Steffen

Regards,
Reinhard