[TYPO3-core] RFC: Bug #6039: TCA group -> file absolute path without uploadfolder (extended)

[Steffen Kamper]

Hi Jeff,

Jeff Segars schrieb:
> Steffen Kamper wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> two comments on the new internal type file_reference:
>>
>> 1) the path should be relative to fileadmin-dir, as the file mounts do 
>> the same. This is what the sense of fileadmin is, container for all 
>> files.
>>
>> 2) The TCEform: Having an upload-field in file_reference doesn't make 
>> sense, as there is no upload folder, so this has to be omitted.
>>
>>  From usecase i see the problem, as you may want to let the decision 
>> to the user if file is uploaded or a reference. So a switch in the 
>> form beside a file field would be great. I don't know atm how to 
>> realize without an extra field.
> 
> Hey Steffen,
> Thanks for the additional work on this patch.  The use case that you 
> mention highlights the one hesitation I've had about this feature.
> 
> In its original form, there was no indication to the user whether a file 
> would be copied into uploads or just referenced. This means a backend 
> user has no idea how a particular field will behave until he attempts 
> the upload and even then it may not be clear.
> 
> I definitely see the value in referencing files instead of copying them 
> (and think this is what new users in TYPO3 expect), but I think we need 
> to make sure that the user can clearly understand how a field operates 
> without having to know the details of every extension.
> 
> A checkbox where each field can be toggled would be one option. 
> Additional text prior to the upload could be an option, as could a 
> different visual layout.  Not sure what the answer is...just trying to 
> through out some ideas :)
>

i had simular thoughts.

> Thanks,
> Jeff
> 
> ps. Sorry to derail us with discussion again. If this seems to be a 
> valid point, we can go elsewhere and discuss the specifics.

i think we should devide it
1) introduce file_reference as new type within this patch
2) find a method for file to switch to file_reference and back in 
another issue

vg Steffen