[TYPO3-v4] Minutes of the 10th meeting of the 4.7 Release Team

[Steffen Ritter]

Am 30.01.2012 19:37, schrieb Steffen Gebert:
>> TYPO3 4.7
>> >  ==========
>> >  Nothing special has been discussed about TYPO3 4.7.
>> >  The FAL Team - currently meeting up at Stuttgart B:Dreizehn GmbH -
>> >  announced that they plan to push the first patches within this week.
> Seriously? "Nothing special"? We have two weeks until Feature Freeze and
> it feels like development of 4.7 hasn't been started at all.
>
> What's with all the other BLE tasks?

What exactly do yo mean?
- the whole Frontend/Accessibility stuff is already integrated
- external Extensions have been releases do TER
- FAL - biggest solo part is on work right now
- Government Package is not related to a Feature Freeze and currently 
automatically generated, both (gov and introduction package) have to be 
overworked as soon as FAL got integrated

The ExtJS 4 migration has been dropped and reverted. Therefore the whole 
VIDI, and new File-Module, Custom Record Tree ist out of scope.

The one outstanding Topic is the Console-Application. Which indeed is a 
standalone product which would need an init.php Refactoring which Oliver 
Hader did...
This would has been working for the time of the BLE close-up. The 
reasons why Olly never pushed it to Gerrit are ? I do not know :P

Then there are Grid-Elements. Which are finished and released to TER. 
There are plans about an Screencast by the new Team and some Buzz around 
it which Ben is organizing as well as the plan to move the Drag&Drop 
stuff to Core.
There has been an opposition on putting the Extenion itself to to Core 
- as TV never got sysext, too. But I think that is fine... Not everyone 
needs Flexible Content Elements.

Then there's only the Logging project left which to me seems to make 
good progress and would be a candidate for at least integration of the 
lowlevel API. But Steffen Müller told me that you are not up to put 
anything into the Core for 4.7, yet.

As it applies for all projects - especially the last 3: At the end the 
contributors within the teams have to request their stuff to be 
integrated or push something.
We - or better I - just can follow up on them and keep Track. But It 
makes no sense to write "nothing new from this project" every week.

Well: "FAL" is written shortly, behind the scenes there are hundreds (if 
not thousands) of lines of Code. What seemed like an "small and doable" 
job in the end got quite a big project, including many new TypoScript 
options, TypoScript Objects, Typolink syntax, possiblities with files 
and so on... So even if it looks "small" there will be much around.



But you're right. Somehow it feels like development never started...
Look at how many people will attend the Developer days, look how many 
pages have been submitted and reviewed. And read how often we adressed 
lack of man-power during development.

On the one hand there are complaints that nothing happens, on another 
hand there are no reviews and a third position is, that the stuff which 
has been done, get's merged so fast. That's a vicious circle itself.
Looking at the pending stuff for FAL-branch which already is in Gerrit 
since weeks and noone looked at it I wonder how the really big parts 
should get through if the authors of the different parts not just vote 
for each other?

If you have solutions for that and can bring up more topics - and people 
who will work on that I think we all are in.

We started with a vision and arrived in Reality. That's hard, but I 
think this is a lesson you have to learn in a unpayed community driven 
ecosystem.


I hope I could answer your questions somehow.

regards

Steffen

-- 
Steffen Ritter
Release Manager TYPO3 4.7

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