[TYPO3] SPAM-LOW: Re: Typo3 vs other CMSs

[Benjamin Mack]

Hey Christoph,

thanks for your opinion. I think this is an important point - The 
usuability.

I was just introducing a friend of mine (also a IT-Techie) to Typo3. 
Afterwards he said: "Man, I've rarely seen something SO unintuitive than 
this".

I hope that in a couple of years Typo3 gets more usuable for beginners. 
With TemplaVoila it got better, we'll see what's in the pipe next :-).

greetings,
benni.
-SDG-


Christoph Herrmann wrote:
> Lol, I'm getting the message, thanks all :) I guess it's the same with 
> all the Photoshop vs Fireworks, MT vs Wordpress etc discussions. There 
> will never be agreement, but the more competent and customisable your 
> tool, the more diffcult it will be to set up and learn.
> 
> I played around all day with Joomla. In my particular case I feel that 
> (apart from the very important point that it displays no site hierachy, 
> which indeed hurts!) most of all it will be easier on my clients. I can 
> sit down and play around with Typo3 all year and probably learn to use 
> and develop over time, like I have learnt to use all other tools of my 
> trade. But when I tested with my wife yesterday, she had no clue where 
> to start with Typo3 and Joomla made a lot of sense to her, at least at 
> the basic beginner level.
> 
> Now most of my clients are at the same web savvy level as my wife, i.e. 
> no idea. They want to control their websites or want their secretary to 
> do so, without any need for training. So I install a CMS, explain the 
> basics and then charge for more advanced stuff. Keeps them happy and 
> relieves a lot of maintenance work for me. I don't think any of my 
> clients would ever manage to learn Typo3. One example:
> 
> One client of mine wants different templates for different pages. In 
> Joomla he just clicks and assigns a template to a page. In Typo3 he 
> would need to learn TypoScript and all sorts of stuff.
> 
> Basically in Joomla my client can switch on and off all sorts of stuff 
> and readf the docs and learn how to use it. With Typo3 he wouldn't even 
> understand the first 5 lines of any doc I've read so far, and I really 
> have read a LOT.
> 
> So bottom line is, from my very short experience: Typo3 is a pro 
> developers tool with immense capabilities. Great to build complex stuff. 
> But I can't really present  this to any customer of mine as a CMS. If 
> even I got intensely frustrated by it I don't even want to imagine what 
> it would do to a mere Joe Sixpack who can't even configure their email 
> address properly (and I say this without any disrespect, I can't fix my 
> spark plugs either!)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
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> Elmar Hinz wrote:
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>> Matthew Manderson wrote:
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>>> I found that TYPO3 was the only CMS that could do want I wanted so I had to
>>> learn it and I still am learning and I still feel like a newbie.
>>>
>>> If you can really do it in Joomla, don't waste your effort on TYPO3.
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>> Full ACK.
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>> TYPO3 is definitly not for your mother and your father and your cousin. It
>> is for professionals and real freaks only. It's a heavy machine. You need
>> training to handly it.
>>
>> Donate your little sister a package of Joomla.
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>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Elmar
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