[TYPO3] SPAM-LOW: Re: Typo3 vs other CMSs

[Christoph Herrmann]

Lol, I'm getting the message, thanks all :) I guess it's the same with 
all the Photoshop vs Fireworks, MT vs Wordpress etc discussions. There 
will never be agreement, but the more competent and customisable your 
tool, the more diffcult it will be to set up and learn.

I played around all day with Joomla. In my particular case I feel that 
(apart from the very important point that it displays no site hierachy, 
which indeed hurts!) most of all it will be easier on my clients. I can 
sit down and play around with Typo3 all year and probably learn to use 
and develop over time, like I have learnt to use all other tools of my 
trade. But when I tested with my wife yesterday, she had no clue where 
to start with Typo3 and Joomla made a lot of sense to her, at least at 
the basic beginner level.

Now most of my clients are at the same web savvy level as my wife, i.e. 
no idea. They want to control their websites or want their secretary to 
do so, without any need for training. So I install a CMS, explain the 
basics and then charge for more advanced stuff. Keeps them happy and 
relieves a lot of maintenance work for me. I don't think any of my 
clients would ever manage to learn Typo3. One example:

One client of mine wants different templates for different pages. In 
Joomla he just clicks and assigns a template to a page. In Typo3 he 
would need to learn TypoScript and all sorts of stuff.

Basically in Joomla my client can switch on and off all sorts of stuff 
and readf the docs and learn how to use it. With Typo3 he wouldn't even 
understand the first 5 lines of any doc I've read so far, and I really 
have read a LOT.

So bottom line is, from my very short experience: Typo3 is a pro 
developers tool with immense capabilities. Great to build complex stuff. 
But I can't really present  this to any customer of mine as a CMS. If 
even I got intensely frustrated by it I don't even want to imagine what 
it would do to a mere Joe Sixpack who can't even configure their email 
address properly (and I say this without any disrespect, I can't fix my 
spark plugs either!)

Cheers

Chris



Elmar Hinz wrote:

>Matthew Manderson wrote:
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>>I found that TYPO3 was the only CMS that could do want I wanted so I had to
>>learn it and I still am learning and I still feel like a newbie.
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>>If you can really do it in Joomla, don't waste your effort on TYPO3.
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>Full ACK.
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>TYPO3 is definitly not for your mother and your father and your cousin. It
>is for professionals and real freaks only. It's a heavy machine. You need
>training to handly it.
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>Donate your little sister a package of Joomla.
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>Regards
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>Elmar
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