[Neos] Is Neos suitable for me?

Aske Ertmann aske at moc.net
Sat Jul 26 21:22:40 CEST 2014

Hi Szabolcs

First of all I’m glad to hear that you’re considering Neos as the framework for your solution and thanks for the kind words. The team is always interesting in helping out with bigger projects to help adoption of the product.

I’ll try to answer some of your questions, but for a project this size I would recommend getting an expert involved to give a professional assessment not limited by whoever has a little spare time to help. I know plenty of the guys from the Neos team are already doing similar consultancy through their respective agencies, including me. If this is something you’d like to try I’d recommend writing a new post to the mailing list asking those who consider themselves experts to get in contact with you and then you can choose whoever you deem a good fit.

Anyway regarding your questions.

Regarding packages it’s partly because there isn’t any overview of them yet. Work has been started for making that visible on the Neos website, but it’s still not finished. The easiest way to find packages is to use composers packagist.org, however their website is horrible for searching. However their JSON API will allow you to limit by package type, which gives a much better result. See https://packagist.org/search.json?type=typo3-flow

Then the other part is like Dominique mentioned that you don’t need packages for a lot of things. E.g. a blog can be done with document nodes with comments and a search implementation for listing, e.g. elastic search. Also it’s actually pretty easy to achieve and there is a package that does part of it available. See https://github.com/robertlemke/RobertLemke.Plugin.Blog. I doubt there is a forum available, but there’s the Flow framework to support building something like that. I’m pretty sure that there isn’t any ad management package available and I personally I’d be surprised if you could make a good one that would fit the independent needs for projects. However my colleague Rasmus Skjoldan and I have discussed content dimensions allowing for personalization and multi-channel publishing a lot and this is something a magazine could benefit a lot from. Also other things like integration to social media and analytics could be very useful. We have ideas and ways of how that can be achieved in Neos, but this would be a very custom solution tailored exactly for the needs of that project. In essence what I’m trying to say is that you can achieve these things with Neos and it will probably be the best solution you could get, but it will require you to implement many of the things yourself. So it then boils down to your budget, because if you have a budget to built these things exactly the way you want them then I’d say you should definitely go for it, however if you don’t and are looking for standard solutions with whatever limitations/downsides that has then you shouldn’t. Regarding paid packages, I don’t think so other than custom solutions you get agencies to implement.

Keep in mind that Neos is still a very young product (dec 2013) and is evolving rapidly at the moment. There will be more features and lots of more packages within a year or two and currently most implement custom solutions rather than rely on finished community packages for advanced websites.

Regarding stability it’s still a young product with it’s child illnesses, but the situation is improving quickly. As mentioned by Dominique the 1.1 release focused on the performance and stability and stability is still an important topic for the upcoming releases. I’d say you can definitely work with it, but if you’re in doubt you should try it out for yourself with a test installation. E.g. with https://launchr.com/typo3-neos. Many projects are being made with the product already and they all rely on the stability of the product, recently a reference list was made available too http://neos.typo3.org/demo/neos-references.html.

I hope that you’ll find the information useful.

Best regards

On 16 Jul 2014, at 23:46, Szabolcs Légrádi <szabolcs.legradi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> We would like to create an online magazine with daily updated content and are experimenting with different content management systems. I am writing in hope to get affirmation that TYPO3 is suitable for us. The site would be similar to Woman's Day (womansday.com) with most of its functions.
> Neos looks really awesome, the content editor interface is perfect for journalists. I didn't find much documentation about packages, but if I am right I can install packages that are based on TYPO3 Flow, is that correct? Like the ones here: packagist.org/search/?q=typo3 - I saw that TYPO3 CMS has more than 6000 extensions, but I guess those are not compatible with Neos. The most important extensions would be a Forum, Blog, Ad Management. Are there premium, paid extensions?
> One more topic that is of interest to us is the stability. TYPO3 CMS looks mature and is used widely by big companies, but how stable is Neos? We are hoping to get 100-150.000 visitors per day and there will be times when an article will get published on several popular websites bringing in more visitors. Is it easily scalable, can it handle high loads?
> All comments are appreciated!
> Thanks,
> Szabolcs
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