[Neos] UI sketches for edit/preview

Rasmus Skjoldan rasmus at typo3.org
Sat Aug 24 01:19:12 CEST 2013


First of all: Great to discuss this with more people! Thanks for debating this!

On 22/08/2013, at 16.03, Jacob Floyd <cognifloyd at gmail.com> wrote:

> aack. Let's not put the site inside a photo of an ipad or an iphone or
> whatever.

I agree. If implementers or agencies want to do that, they should be able to do so in own preview templates. But it shouldn't be provided by the Neos core.
> That suggests a certain level of fidelity that we can't provide.
> Plus, there are hundreds or even thousands of devices, and I don't want to
> start down the path of providing images for even some of them. That will
> very quickly turn Neos into bloatware.


> Someone could write a plugin that
> adds the photo of the device, but that plugin should probably pull the
> images from a webservice somewhere. Neos installations (imo) should not
> include device images.

I do agree, again.

> Just because CQ5 does something does not make it a good idea.



> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Thomas Allmer <d4kmor at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 22.08.2013 13:01, Bastian Waidelich wrote:
>>> Excuse my ignorance, but why do we need to differentiate between "edit"
>>> and "preview" modes?
>>> Couldn't we just reduce this to "modes"? With the "preview"-button on
>>> the top right you'd always jump into fullscreen preview mode..
>>> I actually think, that would reduce complexity more than avoiding
>>> dropdowns.
>> +1
>> now actually I believe I have misinterpreted some parts of the blog post...
>> I thought there would be "only" edit modes. I see no benefit in showing
>> something you can't edit.
>> So even if you show the Page for an Iphone, or Ipad, or even as an Native
>> Android App (who get's it Data via json, xml, ...) you should be able to
>> see an "Frame estimate" and edit content there.
>> Or if you want to show how Google will show your Webpage in a Search
>> Result... this should be editable as well. No need for the editor to know
>> that "intern" it just updates the meta description. All the editor wants is
>> to control the text that is show in the Google Search Result.
>> Here are some examples on how I would see this. And that would be
>> AWESOME!!! and technically it should be "easy" as well, as we already have
>> multiple "views" for real and wireframe...
>> https://drive.google.com/**folderview?id=**0B3SkNxgaPriMRVdzRGtmZDJxdVU&**
>> usp=sharing<https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3SkNxgaPriMRVdzRGtmZDJxdVU&usp=sharing>
>> In my personal opinion all the "Preview" Button should do is just what it
>> is doing now. Remove the "Neos Frame" temporarily to see only the desired
>> Mode (be it, frontend, wireframe, iPhone, Google, App Data Export, ...)
>> make sense?
>> cheers
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