[Neos] UI sketches for edit/preview
rasmus at typo3.org
Sat Aug 24 01:33:02 CEST 2013
> which modes are provided by default is an entirely different question... I am certain that there will be modes (made by someone) with image frames for iphone or ipad... as it seems to be the only way that some people understand, why it looks different...
It depends greatly on what type of project and organization you speak of. To some, you're totally right - to larger organizations that deliver content to many many different platforms, they are much more used to authoring abstraction.
> anyway if there is an image around it or not doesn't bother me at all. I could just be a 5px black border or whatever.
Better preview is a common goal for us, I think. But it needs to be extremely flexible as the needs of our clients and users are so extremely different.
> and actually that wasn't even my point... my point was that every mode should have the possibility to edit. The editor should not care what is actually done behind the curtain as long as it changes what he wants to change :p [see google example, no need to go back from a "preview" to edit page properties -> meta data...]
I'm currently gathering input from many different sources about this. Thanks a huge bunch for sharing your view about it. I will take this further in the process. Making the distance between editing and previewing as small as possible is important - so I'll definitely take your input into it.
Don't hesitate to comment more about this!
> just my 2 cents
> On 22.08.2013 16:03, Jacob Floyd wrote:
>> aack. Let's not put the site inside a photo of an ipad or an iphone or
>> whatever. That suggests a certain level of fidelity that we can't provide.
>> Plus, there are hundreds or even thousands of devices, and I don't want to
>> start down the path of providing images for even some of them. That will
>> very quickly turn Neos into bloatware. Someone could write a plugin that
>> adds the photo of the device, but that plugin should probably pull the
>> images from a webservice somewhere. Neos installations (imo) should not
>> include device images.
>> Just because CQ5 does something does not make it a good idea.
>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Thomas Allmer <d4kmor at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 22.08.2013 13:01, Bastian Waidelich wrote:
>>>> Excuse my ignorance, but why do we need to differentiate between "edit"
>>>> and "preview" modes?
>>>> Couldn't we just reduce this to "modes"? With the "preview"-button on
>>>> the top right you'd always jump into fullscreen preview mode..
>>>> I actually think, that would reduce complexity more than avoiding
>>> now actually I believe I have misinterpreted some parts of the blog post...
>>> I thought there would be "only" edit modes. I see no benefit in showing
>>> something you can't edit.
>>> So even if you show the Page for an Iphone, or Ipad, or even as an Native
>>> Android App (who get's it Data via json, xml, ...) you should be able to
>>> see an "Frame estimate" and edit content there.
>>> Or if you want to show how Google will show your Webpage in a Search
>>> Result... this should be editable as well. No need for the editor to know
>>> that "intern" it just updates the meta description. All the editor wants is
>>> to control the text that is show in the Google Search Result.
>>> Here are some examples on how I would see this. And that would be
>>> AWESOME!!! and technically it should be "easy" as well, as we already have
>>> multiple "views" for real and wireframe...
>>> In my personal opinion all the "Preview" Button should do is just what it
>>> is doing now. Remove the "Neos Frame" temporarily to see only the desired
>>> Mode (be it, frontend, wireframe, iPhone, Google, App Data Export, ...)
>>> make sense?
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