[TYPO3-50-general] I can't see AJAX anywhere?

[dan frost]

This is from experience.

We used xajax for approx 1 year across most of our projects and then 
started playing with Prototype. Of course, to use Prototype in PHP you 
need to build the server-side but the implementation on the client-side 
is more elegant in Prototype than Xajax.

I'm afraid I take your comments about buzz words with a pinch of salt 
because of my above comment.

Also, I add more salt because I can't believe you're suggesting not 
using client-side processing. Accessibility or not - what about the huge 
trends towards using Ajax and other client-side processing (see post on 
google gears).

My suggestion:
- prototype for Ajax. Easier and quicker to implement. Cross-browser 
event handling etc.
- Simple, custom Ajax server.

It's not a huge issue really. But I'm surprised at the out-dated 
comments about client-side coding..

cheers,
dan]

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> Hi Dan,
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> you compare apples and pears. Techniques and application areas are completly
> different. 
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> Xajax: A ajax library with a PHP API. The application logic is on the
> serverside.
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> Prototype: A powerfull javascript library with an accessory ajax pump. The
> application logic is on the client side.
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> Calling prototype an ajax library is IMHO a widespread but wrong use of a
> buzzword. It's like calling a car a kitchen, because it has a can opener
> build in. The use of javascript libraries alone, results in pages, that are
> not fully accessible. Clientside logic simply breaks if javascript is not
> available. 
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> Accessibility is required by laws, especially for governments. Professional
> pages need serverside logic, because serverside logic doesn't depend on
> javascript. This is only garanteed by serverside ajax libraries like
> xajax -- or by doubling the programming costs, once for the server, once
> for the client.
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> Surely serverside libraries require some knowlege to do a clean
> implementation. But good quality should be a question of requirements, not
> of the laziness of the average developer.
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> Regards
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> Elmar
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