[TYPO3-hci] inspiring people to slave, WAS: 4.1 =menubar/iconbar/dashboard; lets go!

[JoH asenau]

>> Well -since this discussion will lead to nowhere I just want to
>> clarify this point:
>
> => I think you want other people to do what YOU want. It seems you
> have an authoritarian leader-style. I read this in the uppper
> sentence and in your words how you think of the work of developers
> and how you react to _arguments_.

The upper sentence just says that I don't think it would be useful to
continue a thread that would just be an endless battle of arguments. Kasper
has made his point clear and so did I. The last point I wanted to clarify
because Kasper claimed that I wanted to force the core developers to solve
my problems, which is simply not true.

I don't see where this might have been "authoritarian" (although I have to
admit that IMHO leadership always has something to do with authority) - but
I didn't even claim to be a leader, so I don't know what's your problem with
my style.

BTW: Since I am a developer myself these thoughts about the "work of
developers" apply to my own working style too. As a developer you aren't
just an inventor but a problem solver. Usually I don't just solve my own
problems but the problems of people who are not able to code themselves. And
if I committed myself to be a developer of a software (or just parts of it)
that is going to play in the major league of CMSs, I think it's my
responsibility to solve the problems of its users instead of my own. You
might notice that this is just the contrary of "authoritarian style", since
the authority in this case is the user not me. And there is a simple word
for it: They call it "service" ;-)


> I made some comments in the wikipage regarding the
> coding-styleguide-OpenOffice-document. If you _really_ want to
> contribute something then you should write your concept of making
> concepts in an _agile context_ at this wiki-page what I prepared:
> http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/T3Doc/doc_core_cgl#Brainstorming

Since the page you created reflects my "concept of making concepts"
perfectly well, I don't know what else I should contribute to that page. Now
we can only hope that somebody will read this page and tries to follow this
concept.

> Or do you just ask questions to put more life in the community or ask
> questions what nobody is thinking of in the moment???

Of course - I just ask questions, because it's always so boring in these
groups ;-)
Come on! - You didn't really mean that serious ...

Have a good night ...

Joey

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