[TYPO3-hci] 4.1 = menubar/iconbar/dashboard; lets go!

[Kasper Skårhøj]

Great Maximo,

Please make life easier for us with a screencast or possibly a demo- 
login (or at least a screenshot). I don't have time to install  
extensions.

- kasper



On Oct 11, 2006, at 8:33 , Maximo Cuadros wrote:

> Hi, at my extension mc_dojo, i have a tabbed version of webmodule, its
> a live example of Erich example.
>
> Best regards.
>
> On 10/11/06, Patrick Gaumond <patrick at typo3quebec.org> wrote:
>> 1- The highlight (for me...) is the fact that the page tree (and
>> Filelist) are written, easily selectable and visible.
>>
>> Pagetree (as we almost call it) is so much better than Web->Page  
>> as it's
>>   straight forward, use the "real" name and is for most editors, the
>> central point of TYPO3.
>>
>> 2- I'm not sure for the clipboard in case of a large >200 pages
>> Pagetree. We're used to normal apps with Edit->Paste so maybe  
>> Clipboard
>> is a good contender for the application bar (Kasper's horizontal  
>> bar).
>>
>> 3- The view from Eric mock up is for no apparent reason more  
>> temptating
>> to use. I never used the view/magnified glass available in the last 3
>> years but with the tab it's more likely I would use it. Maybe it's  
>> the
>> fact that it's almost instantly showing(since it's just a mock up)  
>> and
>> that give me this impression of usefulness suddenly...
>>
>> 4- The faux-spotlight menu showned in Kasper's video could possibly
>> replace the old "Search string/Show record" and then make the editing
>> area less packed. (see the box in list view in Eric's work)
>>
>> 5- We must bring the Undo/history feature easier to reach. The  
>> thing is
>> that we have Versionning that also kind of compete in the same area.
>> This is a tab or section that needs to be further analyzed with  
>> people
>> that never used TYPO3.
>>
>> 6- Help/About/Doc: Mac and Windows used to have the menu item Help or
>> About that consist of those. So maybe a straight Help menu could
>> effectively group together:
>>    About this server
>>    About modules installed
>>    Documentation/manuals
>>    WebStaff help center (custom link)
>>
>> It should be easy for admin to add links there relative to the use of
>> their site. I'm thinking about some pages under a sysfolder with  
>> How-to
>> or even links to some intranets docs in a corporate environment.
>>
>> Maybe the Help menu could also be the host for some reports, logs and
>> statistics.
>>
>>
>>> (I understand that you feel the old backend was good enough for  
>>> admins.
>>> For 4.1 it will definitely stay as an option but we should be  
>>> open to
>>> improvements to the new menu/icon concept that even admins like  
>>> to work
>>> with in terms of efficiency)
>>
>> One thing that we also should keep in mind is that all those fine
>> personalizations should be lockable so the admin still get complete
>> control if he wants standard looking BE.
>>
>> As a rule of the thumb must be: What is not possible to change for  
>> a BE
>> user should be invisible. Here I'm referring to the present User- 
>> >Setup
>> where users can still see stuff he shouldn't.
>>
>>
>>>> http://www.tragamin.com/t3_be/Home.html
>>
>> Eric, that's fantastic that you did that so fast. I mean, I'm someone
>> who need stuff from others to dig deeper and with your mock up I was
>> able to describes ideas I had for a long time. Thanks for that.  
>> And...
>> same for Kasper. It's sadly easier to comment than do the actual  
>> coding
>> but we should be able to get it right with the eyeballs in this group
>> and the help of few new people not used to TYPO3.
>>
>>
>>> "Necessity is the mother of invention"
>>
>> Ah the Mothers of Invention...what a musical group.  ;)
>>
>> Patrick
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- kasper

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