[TYPO3-hci] 4.1 = menubar/iconbar/dashboard; lets go!

Maximo Cuadros mcuadros at gmail.com
Wed Oct 11 08:33:35 CEST 2006


Hi, at my extension mc_dojo, i have a tabbed version of webmodule, its
a live example of Erich example.

Best regards.

On 10/11/06, Patrick Gaumond <patrick at typo3quebec.org> wrote:
> 1- The highlight (for me...) is the fact that the page tree (and
> Filelist) are written, easily selectable and visible.
>
> Pagetree (as we almost call it) is so much better than Web->Page as it's
>   straight forward, use the "real" name and is for most editors, the
> central point of TYPO3.
>
> 2- I'm not sure for the clipboard in case of a large >200 pages
> Pagetree. We're used to normal apps with Edit->Paste so maybe Clipboard
> is a good contender for the application bar (Kasper's horizontal bar).
>
> 3- The view from Eric mock up is for no apparent reason more temptating
> to use. I never used the view/magnified glass available in the last 3
> years but with the tab it's more likely I would use it. Maybe it's the
> fact that it's almost instantly showing(since it's just a mock up) and
> that give me this impression of usefulness suddenly...
>
> 4- The faux-spotlight menu showned in Kasper's video could possibly
> replace the old "Search string/Show record" and then make the editing
> area less packed. (see the box in list view in Eric's work)
>
> 5- We must bring the Undo/history feature easier to reach. The thing is
> that we have Versionning that also kind of compete in the same area.
> This is a tab or section that needs to be further analyzed with people
> that never used TYPO3.
>
> 6- Help/About/Doc: Mac and Windows used to have the menu item Help or
> About that consist of those. So maybe a straight Help menu could
> effectively group together:
>    About this server
>    About modules installed
>    Documentation/manuals
>    WebStaff help center (custom link)
>
> It should be easy for admin to add links there relative to the use of
> their site. I'm thinking about some pages under a sysfolder with How-to
> or even links to some intranets docs in a corporate environment.
>
> Maybe the Help menu could also be the host for some reports, logs and
> statistics.
>
>
> > (I understand that you feel the old backend was good enough for admins.
> > For 4.1 it will definitely stay as an option but we should be open to
> > improvements to the new menu/icon concept that even admins like to work
> > with in terms of efficiency)
>
> One thing that we also should keep in mind is that all those fine
> personalizations should be lockable so the admin still get complete
> control if he wants standard looking BE.
>
> As a rule of the thumb must be: What is not possible to change for a BE
> user should be invisible. Here I'm referring to the present User->Setup
> where users can still see stuff he shouldn't.
>
>
> >> http://www.tragamin.com/t3_be/Home.html
>
> Eric, that's fantastic that you did that so fast. I mean, I'm someone
> who need stuff from others to dig deeper and with your mock up I was
> able to describes ideas I had for a long time. Thanks for that. And...
> same for Kasper. It's sadly easier to comment than do the actual coding
> but we should be able to get it right with the eyeballs in this group
> and the help of few new people not used to TYPO3.
>
>
> > "Necessity is the mother of invention"
>
> Ah the Mothers of Invention...what a musical group.  ;)
>
> Patrick
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