[TYPO3-project-formidable] Official Forms Library

[Jerome Schneider]

Hello Ingmar.

I agree when you say that the two exts are different. And no one will 
obsolete the other.


But ...

During our discussions on the net and at T3DD06 you told me that you were in 
charge of the dev of the new backend & frontend form CORE-layer for TYPO3, 
together with Sebastian.


Right ?

Could there be 2 'official' ways of doing things in T3 ;) The CORE-one and 
the ECT-supported one ?


Anyway, we're all just trying to make good work according to our opinions, 
no less, no more.


Jerome

"Ingmar Schlecht" <ingmar at typo3.org> a écrit dans le message de news: 
mailman.1.1158757735.20699.typo3-project-formidable at lists.netfielders.de...
> No worries, guys!
>
> I think tx_forms really has a very different focus compared to
> formidable. Whereas forms is limited strictly to form handling,
> formidable is more of a rapid application development framework.
>
> @Raphael: tx_forms is indeed the "official" forms library supported by
> the Extension Coordination Team (which is headed by Elmar Hinz).
> Anyway, if you compare the two, you'll see that the focus of tx_forms
> and formidable is completely different!
>
> cheers
> Ingmar
>
> Raphael GEYER schrieb:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> Official extension ... what does that mean ? are you sponsored by the 
>> TYPO3
>> association ?
>>
>> Yes, FORMidable lacks a correct documentation. Yes, it doesn't have 
>> neither
>> any wiki page that presents it. Expect the community to correct this 
>> really
>> soon, David.
>>
>> Yes, we have been in contact with Christopher Koehler but when he 
>> collected
>> ideas and suggestions FORMidable was already existing.
>>
>> As you said, you didn't follow the progress of FORMidable which was a 
>> form
>> library in it's first release.
>> Now, FORMidable is a framework which not only allows to create Forms but
>> also manages business interactions (display results, search forms, server
>> events ...)
>>
>> The goal of ameos_formidable is not to be any official extension, Ingmar
>> Schlecht and Sebastian Kurfuerst already planned to work on a common form
>> library for TYPO3 usable in the BackEnd and the FrontEnd which should
>> replace TCA and all this stuff. And this *is* official. They, as core
>> developpers, asked us to help them achieving this because, as Sebastian 
>> said
>> at Dietikon "FORMidable would be the perfect form library for TYPO3 v5"
>>
>> FORMidable has been presented at T3DD06 in Dietikon, and the assembly was
>> really enthousiastic. (A demonstration is also planned at T3CON06)
>>
>> FORMidable is also succesfuly integrated FORMidable in huge TYPO3 
>> projects,
>> such as : Peugeot's intranet, CEA's intranet, UN's intranet,
>> http://www.30millionsdamis.fr/ , http://www.a-e-r.org/ ...
>>
>> There is also a living community that uses formidable, and developping
>> add-ons for FORMidable ( thx Jeremy, Radu, FS, ... )
>>
>> If tx_forms reveals itselves as the right way of doing the same things 
>> that
>> we can do with FORMidable, maybe could we collaborate and merge your work
>> into ours and we are open to share ideas.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Raphael GEYER
>> http://www.ameos.com
>>
>>
>> "David Toshack" <david at vaultin.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
>> mailman.1.1158737987.12857.typo3-project-formidable at lists.netfielders.de...
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> Looks like there are some great things going on in this newsgroup. I
>>> worry though, that there are currently two parallel projects with the
>>> goal of forms management.
>>>
>>> There is now an official tx_forms extension in the works which worries
>>> me a little that your hard work on formidable will soon become obsolete
>>> to the TYPO3 public once the official forms library is complete. Have I
>>> admit I haven't followed the progress of formidable of late but I was
>>> wondering if you guys have been in contact with Christopher Koehler in
>>> regard to merging any outstanding features back into tx_forms?
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> David
>>
>>