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Peter Sereinigg - act2win Consulting GmbH ps at act2win.com
Sat Mar 6 12:21:19 CET 2010


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Today's Topics:

   1.  doc_core_errors - official? (Martin Holtz)
   2. Re: doc_core_errors - official? (Francois Suter)
   3. Re: doc_core_errors - official? (Martin Holtz)
   4.  stable URI-paths in the wiki (Daniel Bruessler)
   5. Re: stable URI-paths in the wiki (Daniel Bruessler)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 12:11:31 +0100
From: Martin Holtz <typo3ng_2009 at martinholtz.de>
Subject: [TYPO3-doc]  doc_core_errors - official?
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Hi,

is that document an official core-doc?

http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/File:Error_and_exception_handling.odt	

Can someone add it then too
http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/

thanks,

martin
-- 
Martin Holtz - elemente websolutions http://www.elemente-websolutions.ms

http://wiki.typo3.org/Ts45min - TypoScript in "45" minutes
http://wiki.typo3.org/De:ts45min - (auch in Deutsch)


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:02:15 +0100
From: Francois Suter <fsu-lists at cobweb.ch>
Subject: Re: [TYPO3-doc] doc_core_errors - official?
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Hi,

> is that document an official core-doc?
>
> http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/File:Error_and_exception_handling.odt	
>
> Can someone add it then too
> http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/

Yes, but no :-)

It is official but I have decided to integrate it into doc_core_api, 
because that's where it belongs IMO. Thus you can already find it in the 
SVN version of doc_core_api [1].

And yes, I know that doc_core_api is becoming a monster and should be 
split into smaller documents, but creating a doc_core_error seemed wrong 
to me as it was much too small. I don't think it would help having tons 
of little documents. It wouldn't make the information easier to find.

But thinking about how to split doc_core_api is also part of the 
documentation revamp that I have undertaken. One idea would be to 
extract the chapter about the TCA and put it into its own doc, because 
it represents a large, consistent whole. Here again, feel free to make 
suggestions.

Cheers

-- 

Francois Suter
Cobweb Development Sarl - http://www.cobweb.ch

[1] 
https://svn.typo3.org/TYPO3v4/Documentation/doc_core_api/trunk/doc/doc_core_api.sxw


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:33:00 +0100
From: Martin Holtz <typo3ng_2009 at martinholtz.de>
Subject: Re: [TYPO3-doc] doc_core_errors - official?
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Hi Francois,

> It is official but I have decided to integrate it into doc_core_api,
> because that's where it belongs IMO. Thus you can already find it in the
> SVN version of doc_core_api [1].
ah, great. Thats the place it belongs to.

> And yes, I know that doc_core_api is becoming a monster and should be
> split into smaller documents, but creating a doc_core_error seemed wrong
> to me as it was much too small. I don't think it would help having tons
> of little documents. It wouldn't make the information easier to find.
well, i do not think that one big document is bad (for the reader). You
can search in it and you do not need to search for different documents.

> But thinking about how to split doc_core_api is also part of the
> documentation revamp that I have undertaken. One idea would be to
> extract the chapter about the TCA and put it into its own doc, because
> it represents a large, consistent whole. Here again, feel free to make
> suggestions.
I think one big doc_core_api is ok, because it focus on developers.

thanks,
martin

-- 
Martin Holtz - elemente websolutions http://www.elemente-websolutions.ms

http://wiki.typo3.org/Ts45min - TypoScript in "45" minutes
http://wiki.typo3.org/De:ts45min - (auch in Deutsch)


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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:28:19 +0100
From: Daniel Bruessler <danielb at typo3.org>
Subject: [TYPO3-doc]  stable URI-paths in the wiki
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Hello Martin and who's interested in this topic,

Martin you raised several times now the problem that paths shall never
change - and I cared about this now.

Tonight I installed mediawiki locally and imported pages to test that -
and I tried to find good url-rewrite-rules. I wanted to provide all
pages without any prefix, but I now see that it is

1. not really possible (pages with 3 dots like TYPO3_4.3.2) make it too
complicated
2. not easy enough maintainable

=>
Now I just cared for that pages what are in the searchengine-indexes.
6000 results with the prefix "/index.php", and many for the TSref
without prefix. And there is the link from the manual.sxw what links to
/doc_template

So what do you think about these links (they work already):
#in reality this is the path
http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/TSref/stdWrap#case

#the TSref are available without any prefix because many links go to this
http://wiki.typo3.org/De:TSref/stdWrap#case
http://wiki.typo3.org/Fr:TSref/stdWrap#case
http://wiki.typo3.org/De:TSref/45MinutesTypoScript
http://wiki.typo3.org/TSref/stdWrap#case

#this link is comming from the manual.sxw
http://wiki.typo3.org/doc_template#tags

#the TSref are available without any prefix because many links go to this
http://wiki.typo3.org/Main_Page
http://wiki.typo3.org/De:Main_Page
http://wiki.typo3.org/Jp:Main_Page

# (!) this is the best path because this tells what it is: pages in a wiki
http://wiki.typo3.org/wiki/De:TSref/stdWrap#case
http://wiki.typo3.org/wiki/Fr:TSref/stdWrap#case
http://wiki.typo3.org/wiki/De:TSref/45MinutesTypoScript
http://wiki.typo3.org/wiki/TSref/stdWrap#case
http://wiki.typo3.org/wiki/doc_template#tags
http://wiki.typo3.org/wiki/Main_Page
http://wiki.typo3.org/wiki/De:Main_Page
http://wiki.typo3.org/wiki/Jp:Main_Page

Cheers!
Daniel

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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:32:45 +0100
From: Daniel Bruessler <danielb at typo3.org>
Subject: Re: [TYPO3-doc] stable URI-paths in the wiki
To: typo3-project-documentation at lists.typo3.org
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These two are really easy now:

#for the TSref pages
RewriteRule ^(wiki/)*([A-Za-z][a-z]:)*TSref(.*)*$
/index.php?title=$2TSref$3 [L]

#just for some pages in the moment (2010-03-05)
RewriteRule ^(wiki/)*([A-Za-z][a-z]:)*(Main_Page|doc_template)$
/index.php?title=$2$3 [L]


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