[TYPO3-dam] dd_dam_gallery - development discussion (was 'DAM Photo Gallery' in german list)

[Jan-Hendrik Heuing [DD]]

>> What do we use?
>
> there should also be a FE-editing inside TV - but I'm not sure if the 
> non-working FE-editing/Timtaw is a "bug" in TV or not.
>
> We should also think of performance when probably developing a new 
> FE-editing solution etc., because I think that e.g. a typo-framework with 
> TV, your ext_framework and maybe a new FE-editing framework will contain 
> huge libraries layed over the typo3-framework which might heavily increase 
> rendering-time. So maybe refactoring the core-functionallities might be 
> some better way for this - or at least take those functionality out of the 
> core into an extension, so that the core is keept as small and fast as 
> possible.

Naa... Let me say this: Rendering the page is a different thing, this should 
be fast. Example: In the gallery, what takes time is to analyse how many 
elements are available within a category and it's subcategory, the rest of 
it is fast enough I guess. I added some timetracking if you open your 
admin-panel, you'll see.

For the forms, of course it should be sort-of fast as well, but this is a 
different case. I think much more important is the standard render-stuff, 
not if someone uses forms.

But beside that: I think it is no problem finding a solution which takes 
care of forms fast enough ;)

TV-FE-Editing... Well, that's a problem within be_acl, timtaw or whatelse, 
but I think this can be solved and is not something I'd think about now. My 
problem with TCE is, that I can not change layout at all, and that I can not 
do easily any custom things with it. JS-validation, custom fields. So I'd 
rather invest time in something which is very flexible, and which we could 
use for most cases related to form things. paging of forms, hiding, showing 
of form-fields (via javascript), special form field configuration, special 
validation (like phone numbers) and stuff like that. I do not see that being 
part of TCE within the next 1-2 years to that extend.


>> Using the commenting as an example:
>> - index.php?id=123&showcomments=1&table=tx_dam&element=123&...
>>
>> So links could be generated to show an individual sort of guestbook.This 
>> way you can have individual "guestbooks" for individual images, videos, 
>> content elements etc...
>>
>> Same same fits for voting.
>
> it would also be possible to implement those features (at least voting) 
> into a forum (chc_forum) or whatever to easily achive portal-features. 
> Private Messages could work the same way.

That would be possible in a very easy way, as you just add those special 
links. There is one more advanced problem though: If you want to display the 
number of comments. You have different ways of doing so. I am not a friend 
of real-time rendering, as this slows down the page, as you have to use 
USER_INT. I'd rather add it as ajax-option with a sepratate query. If your 
browser supports Javascript, it sends requests to the server to ask for the 
number of posts. The other chance is implementing some nested 
USER->PHP_SCRIPT_EXT, as this would give you the chance to query the number 
WITHOUT initiating the whole TS engine, as rest of it is cached in the USER 
object. Sounds like a good idea to me.

>> If this ends up in team-development, we should add a new newsgroup for 
>> anything related to development including dd_extensionframework, as a lot 
>> can be done here, a lot is already there. The good thing is that those 
>> things can be developed seperatly like commenting and voting.
>
> I'm on - I need this stuff anyway :)

If I get a few days, I could spend a little time at the evenings to get that 
hack for the commenting running on a testplatform. Then you see ?what I mean 
and how it works.

It could be passed on of course, if this is urgent. The main point, why I 
did not go into it deeply, as that I really hate forms :D I just do not like 
setting them up, validating them etc., so I was thinking... Maybe we find 
some FE-TCE first to make use of it ;) I will need a few hours to get 
something half-way up and running, including some sort of guestbook-style 
summary including backlinks to the original elements...

JH