[TYPO3-content-rendering] RFC: Let's discuss the "default frame" in 4.3

[Franz Koch]

Hi,

> Firstly let me say - we're faced with a problem with out any good 
> solution I reckon. Especially as we're trying to fit it into a system 
> for automatic use ;-)
> 
> The old way didn't have a default wrapping from what I remenber - all it 
> did was put a anchor tag before each content element.
> 
>     <a id="c123"></a>###content###
> 
> And then if you used a space before or after it added the extra html. 
> Pretty good as far as it goes, but not perfect that's for sure.
> 
> I don't disagree that the new method, for most cases, does not cause any 
> great problems. And it is very elegant. But it's still some extra 
> mark-up that's not needed - more extra classes that we don't need, but 
> we're left with no other choice really.

To get rid of the default class, all you have to do is to set the 
according line in TS to a empty class value. No class attribute will be 
in the code if the class value is empty for a specific frame type. So 
simply empty that value for the default frame and you're good, still 
having a working space before/after and ID.

As for anchor tag vs nesting div tag - it's by no means more additional 
markup then before - it just moved from one inline element to a wrapping 
div.

> Like you, I can't think of a better way to do it than either the way it 
> was done before, or the new method. The best I can come up with is using 
> the old method from 4.2 for the anchor tag when there is no additionaly 
> spacing needed; the new default frame with the tag id for when there is 
> spacing needed; and using the new way for the other frames.

As I wrote in some of the lists, it's possible to only use the div 
wrapper for CEs if really needed. I modified my CSC in a way where the 
anchor id is applied to headlines if possible - and if it's applied to a 
headline the wrapping div is removed if not used otherwise (frame or 
space). If I find some time I'll clean up my code and provide a patch 
for the core as well as some other cleanups to have TYPO3 produce clean 
and valid markup by default - and with clean I really mean clean (no <p 
class="bodytext", no default csc-whatever-wrapper-class etc).

-- 
kind regards,
Franz Koch

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