[TYPO3-project-4-3] Global categorization

Martin Kutschker masi-no at spam-typo3.org
Tue Jul 1 08:13:18 CEST 2008


Oliver Hader schrieb:
> Hi Patrick,
> 
> Patrick Gaumond schrieb:
>> Mads presented his work at T3CON07. If you got the DVD it's on DVD 2,
>> chapter 7 "Using taxonomies to organize your pages and content".
>>
>> Did Core Team ever look at this ?
>>
>> Are the principles worth being included into Core ?
>>
>> In my point of view, Categories are linked to the part of TYPO3 being
>> a "Content Management" System...
>>
>> I see so many possibilities and having this as a core feature seems
>> something to aim for.
>>
>> What people think about this topic ?
> 
> I like the idea of using ontologies to "structure" data.

Great, but more complicated. A simple category system is mostly all what
you need. Easy to set up and - important - easy to explain it to editors.

I wouldn't swap categories for ontologies unless I can be convinced that
I can have a foolproof HCI with them.

Masi







 I just watched
> Mads' session on the T3CON07 DVD but unfortunately the screencast was a
> bit blurred and I could just guess what happened on his screen.
> 
> However, ontologies or semantics need a very general approach and not
> only a direct structured scheme like parent/child or "is related to".
> 
> I'm trying to show what I mean from a real life food example (as we all
> like eating ;-):
> Object "mozarella" (chees)
> * property "is of type cheese"
> * property "is not gouda"
> * property "can be used with object pizza"
> * property "tastes good"
> 
> As you can see, ontologies [1] are more about describing
> multi-structured properties of real life objects in an abstracted way -
> the general purpose is to make it understandable for machines. Since
> projection of these semantics are non-trivial, a relational model might
> not be enough and here are some extendable formats required like OWL,
> RDF, RDFS or DAML.
> 
> It's IMO a good thing to dig deeper into this stuff and to also think
> about having the information, once defined via TYPO3 back-end, also
> visible in front-end - again understandable for machines. I know that
> it's much, much more, but these are the first steps on the way to enable
> semantic web functionalities for TYPO3 v4 & v5.
> 
> - olly
> 
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontology_(computer_science)


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