[TYPO3-english] License of the introduction package

[Ron Hall]

Hello Again,

This discussion has illustrated what is both the beauty of TYPO3 and the challenge of expanding its developer base.

It is a beautiful thing that TYPO3 is so flexible. Not only flexible in its front end output, but also flexible in the different ways a developer can achieve that output. It is truly a content management framework not simply a content management system.

But a highly flexible system is more difficult to explain to a new person. It is always good to make it as easy to explain as possible, but it will never be as easy to explain as a simpler, more rigid system. But I will take TYPO3 over a simpler, more rigid system any day.

Templating is a prime example of this flexibility. Each of the TYPO3 templating methods has its strengths and its warts. Personally, I have used pure TypoScript, auto-parser and TV. I like them all but find challenges at times with each.

In fact, I really consider my current approach as a hybrid.
1) TV as the backbone to tie everything together
2) TypoScript to handle the majority of layout changes site-to-site
3) FCEs to handle content elements that contain other content elements (like columns and modules)
4) Create extensions for custom content elements using the API provided by the WEC content element  (this has taken over 90% of what I used to do with FCEs and these extensions are created without PHP knowledge)

Now this is what works best for me (at the moment), but does not mean that it works best for everyone.

For those not familiar with the API provided by the WEC content extension -- which is probably everybody :) -- you can check these two links.

http://lists.typo3.org/pipermail/typo3-project-v4/2010-March/000051.html
http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=14015

Thanks,
Ron

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On Jul 13, 2010, at 6:37 AM, JoH asenau wrote:

>> As I have only ever used TV, I'm not clear on whether things like
>> flexible backend layout and FCE's are available to
>> Automaketemplate/Jetts. EG it's easy in TV to create a 2-col FCE
>> which can be easily populated by editors and, in the backend,
>> displays appropriately as two content columns. Similarly with more
>> complex FCE's you can augment how the content containing areas appear
>> in the backend to make life easy for the editors. Are such things
>> possible / going to be possible with Jetts, or is it only really a
>> solution for simpler sites? I've looked at IceBox/IcePack, but it
>> doesn't seem to be quite on a par with TV. 
> 
> ICE Pack was never meant to be a replacement for FCE, since it is following a completely different principle. So of course it's not quite on par with TV ;-)
> 
> FCE will create fixed structures for different content elements that then can be used by editors only in the way they have been defined. So actually they are not flexible but restrictive when used.
> 
> ICE will give the editors the option to freely combine default and special ICE elements based on IRRE features of the core to create individual elements on their own. Additionally ICE will give you a user interface to easily create GIFBUILDER based graphical headers without knowing TypoScript at all. Last but not least it contains ICE flavors, which is the successor of fancy corners and will let you create fancy styled content boxes that you can assign to any kind of content element.
> 
> The major difference is that ICE will work for both TV and non TV based sites, while FCE aren't available outside the TV world.
> 
> If it's just about having a matching backend layout you should take a look at this one:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsxfNd4TYbk
> 
> It's already in use as a prototype here:
> http://www.charles-voegele.com
> 
> Current plans are to have this ready for 4.5 and there is a forge project for it called "modernbe".
> Could be interesting to combine it with Jetts to get a real TV successor.
> 
> Have fun wiht it
> 
> Joey
> 
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