[TYPO3-dev] Master Style 4 Typo3

[Kasper Skårhøj]

Hi Johannes,

I will not discuss this yet since I'm busy with other things that  
overrule it for me. But I'm ok if you want to work with others on it.  
Somehow I feel it belongs somewhere between the content rendering  
group and ECT. So maybe on those lists?

- kasper

On Feb 21, 2006, at 21:54 , Johannes Reichardt wrote:

> Hi Kasper,
>
> great to hear you share that idea, if this is the right time and the
> right place we could discuss what is needed.
>
> My supersimple idea in detail:
>
> a default and small "typo3.css" which is right next to the index.php,
> containing a very conservative and simple style without backgrounds.
>
> for example:
>
> body {
> 	font-familiy:arial,helvetiva,sans;
> 	font-size:12px;
> 	color:#00000;
> }
> h1 {
> 	display:inline;
> 	font-size:18px;
> }
> header1 {
> 	font-size:16px;
> }
> .tdlist1 {
> 	background-color:#ffffff;
> }
> .tdlist2 {
> 	background-color:#eeeeee;
> }
> .error {
> 	color:#ff0000;
> }
>
> thats pretty much nothing but should cover (along with a few more
> styles) 95% of the styling that is needed. If there is something more
> the extension requests to update the typo3.css OR to include its own
> stylesheet wherever it is used (and not everywhere ;)
>
> So this along with no other default styles in typo3 and extensions  
> would
> make things really easy.
>
> What else should be taken care of?
>
> - Johannes
>
>
>>
>> This idea is also on my heart. I haven't looked in detail on what the
>> Content Rendering Schemes are but for version 4.5 I hope that
>> defining a long lasting CSS strategy that can be used globally for a
>> site and affecting all extensions (complying with it) will be a major
>> point.
>>
>> - kasper
>>
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2006, at 2:20 , Johannes Reichardt wrote:
>>
>>> Hey there!
>>>
>>> Its late and my eyes are already burning after more than 12 hours
>>> non-stop computing but nevertheless i would like to share an idea  
>>> that
>>> just came into my mind:
>>>
>>> How about a "masterstyle" for Typo3?
>>>
>>> Let me explain.
>>>
>>> Right now every extension tends to introduce its own new styles -  
>>> new
>>> backgrounds of tds, new font classes, new margins and paddings  
>>> and so
>>> on. Even worse all that oldschool font tags in the template. We all
>>> know
>>> the process of going through myriads of configuration places like  
>>> the
>>> constant editor, the default template, the stylesheet or even the
>>> extension code itself for example. And after that your style is
>>> stil not
>>> really "consistent" and you have a huge mess with tons of different
>>> stylesheets and oldschool tags.
>>>
>>> That really sucks big time.
>>>
>>> So how about a concept that gently invites extension developers  
>>> to use
>>> predefined styles of the mastertemplate which comes along with a  
>>> clean
>>> typo3 install? So we have by default styles for the body, tds,
>>> borders,
>>> errors etc.. and also for table lists, headers and so on. That way
>>> a lot
>>> of other things could be removed (like typoscript styling etc...)  
>>> and
>>> you still would keep complete flexibility overall.
>>>
>>> If you want to style your extension differently than just prepend
>>> "ext_key" to the style and you use a whole own extension style.  
>>> Or you
>>> just add a few "styling exceptions" in the mastertemplate and off
>>> you go.
>>>
>>> The point is to develop a template that is not too huge but still
>>> covers
>>> most cases in a usual typo3 installation. That template should be
>>> publicitly known and used as much as possible.
>>>
>>> In the end it wouldn´t be just a dream but rather reality to  
>>> install a
>>> typo3 page out of the box in 30 minutes and completly style it along
>>> with its extensions in another 30 minutes. And even better: You can
>>> change things quickly without looking up tons of places anymore!
>>>
>>> Actually i´m afraid there is already a concept like this and just  
>>> gets
>>> not used enough or i misunderstood it - if so please ignore this
>>> mail or
>>> explain it to me, otherwise i would be glad to get comments on this
>>> idea.
>>>
>>> Clean styles are the future! (Says a square-eyed-man ;)
>>>
>>> - Johannes
>>>
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>>
>> - kasper
>>
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- kasper

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