[Typo3-dev] RFC: new condition ORIG_TYPO3_VERSION - call for volunteers

[Johannes Reichardt]

Just a short addon to these thoughts - the situation right now reminds 
me on a survey from micro$oft about their office products. they were 
asking users which features they are missing - 8 out of 10 demanded 
features where already there but they just didnt found them or knew how 
to use them :)

- Johannes
>>
>>>Right now
>>>it takes me most time to "choose" how to do things in typo3 than doing
>>>it actually ;)
>>
>>
>>thats an interesting sentence.
>>
>>1) I'm a little surprised that you - considering you very long history with 
>>TYPO3 - still spend time to choose how to do things since I though most 
>>long-timers had their favourites defined already. Anyway, thats not my main 
>>point....:
> 
> 
> Actually it gets better after a while but there are still many things 
> that i just dont know. Knowledgs and possibilities of typo3 are vastly 
> spread over the net and i always made things for my own projects or 
> "low-budget" projects so i never intended to be a typo3 expert who gets 
> paid for programming. so i didnt print out the docs or got a book to get 
> the "big picture" yet. On the other hand even the nice be is still too 
> "unintuitive" for many purposes, especially low or non-profit things 
> where people dont want to waste time understanding things - thats not 
> typo3s fault but has to do with the fact that most things are paied or 
> very narrowed down to what is demanded.
> 
> 
>>2) Providing "best-practice" or a golden path through TYPO3 for newbees is 
>>something I have instinctively avoided - simply because I was too afraid of 
>>pronoucing this or that way as THEE way (no, I don't mean Jesus this 
>>time ;-)) because how would I know? 
> 
> 
> you could know by expirience for example - if something works and doesnt 
> limit the possibilities of the goal it might be the best way to go. for 
> example i am still confused by the "open docs" drop down in the be since 
> i just never need to use it and also don´t really know what happens if i 
> choose a doc there (will my currently open doc be saved or not?) - just 
> as a very small example for "too many ways" to my opinion.
> 
> I also know many sites that have be editors that actually use a highly 
> customized fe just to make the workflow as easy as possible. i once 
> tried to teach someone the be over the internet - they where always 
> complaining its too difficult ;)
> 
> 
>>What I would like is that everyone who think people spend too much time 
>>"choosing" how to do things instead of doing them, they should make sure to 
>>join the up-coming usability/ease-of-use efforts that we will launch in 
>>spring-2006 because thats our chance to distill all the wisdom you have out 
>>there into a better TYPO3-experience in version 4.5!
> 
> 
> i am in - maybe the usability/ease-of-use efforts should be seen in 
> terms of "intuitivity" in a more general way. Or how about merging be 
> and fe completly with "profiles" for admins, editors, visitors etc..? :)
> 
> - Johannes
> 
> 
>>- kasper
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