[TYPO3-typo3org] "Sites made with TYPO3"

[Kian T. Gould]

Hi Daniel

In my opinion the idea of this top brand listing should be that when a 
big company comes to the TYPO3.org listing, they can see that TYPO3 is 
not a system that is only useful for small community websites and 
homepages but they can see that it is a full enterprise class CMS and 
there are references their proofing it. Therefore I thought that its 
important that the top brands are really top brands and that they are 
display in a way that there are always real top brands on that list, but 
who determines what a top brand is, if its not through some kind of 
ranking method.

Are you aware of any European rankings for company / brand values? I 
agree with your concern about using an anglo-american ranking for TYPO3.

Regards
Kian


"Daniel Hinderink" <daniel at typo3.org> wrote in message 
news:mailman.1.1210163550.11547.typo3-team-typo3org at lists.netfielders.de:

> Hi Kian,
>
> >
> > Any idea of what they would charge for that, of course we could also
> do
> > it ourselves. I think the idea is very good lets brainstorm a bit more
> > on it.
>
>
> Check with them directly please.
>
>
> >
> > I think the idea should be that only brands that are listed in the
> > Top100 ranking from Millward can be added to the top brands list.
>
>
>
> I am not that impressed with Millward Brown's ranking method (which is
> pretty opaque) to make it our reference. Additionally our main market is
> still D/A/CH. Brands like SIXT make for good references here, but are
> not represented in the US.
>
> So I guess we have to find another yard stick, or better still, somebody
> to trust on such a matter.
>
>
> So the
>
> > way we could do it is that we have a field that is optional in the
> > reference form that says Millward ranking with a link to the current
> PDF
> >
> http://www.millwardbrown.com/Sites/Optimor/Media/Pdfs/en/BrandZ/BrandZ-2
> 008-Report.pdf
> > for people to look up if their project is on the Top100 list and on
> what
> > position. When someone fills out this field an e-mail gets send to
> > someone suitable (I could do it without a problem but maybe also more
> > than one person so it gets done quickly) saying that they added a
> > listing, then the person can check if the position they put in is real
> > or not and confirm it if it is.
>
>
>
> I don't think we need a function like that. Just somebody with enough
> judgement checking the new additions will do.
>
>
>
> >
> > I like the idea of putting the newest top brand sites at the top as
> long
> > as only Top 100 sites appear there and when you click on more you get
> > them listed in the actual ranking order from Millward.
>
>
>
> Why that?
>
>
> >
> > Any other ideas to that? The only issue I see is that when the new
> > ranking comes out the values are not valid anymore so there I would
> > suggest a mechanism where the person that checks the rankings can send
> > out an e-mail blast to all people that have a top brand ranking to ask
> > them to check if their Millward ranking id is still correct. Any
> better
> > ideas?
>
>
> If there are two rankings, and I certainly don't want to loose the
> community ranking (!), I believe we can keep what we already have for
> the community picks and simply add the second without having to touch
> the first.
>
> cheers
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Kian
> >
> > "Daniel Hinderink" <daniel at typo3.org> wrote in message
> >
> news:mailman.1.1210085834.21371.typo3-team-typo3org at lists.netfielders.de
> :
> >
>
> >> Hi Kian,
> >>
> >> I think the best solution is to introduce a second ranking box,
> keeping
> >> the existing one as the "community picks" and a second one with "best
> >> brands".
> >>
> >> Obviously Brands are selected by hand, much like the reference List
> on
> >> .com. Brands are generally not hard to choose, simply go by brand
> value
> >> (Milward Brown and Interbrand publish rankings annually) and/or share
> >> price/market value.
> >>
> >> That would still require someone suitable to maintain that list.
> Within
> >> that list, the ranking should be chronologically, with last additions
> on
> >> top. On the bottom it could link to a "top brands"-listing page.
> >>
> >> Care to sponsor pixelrund to do this, or ask them to do it yourself?
> >>
> >> The community picks now show the average rating. It could be changed
> to
> >> the total sum of stars, which would also be worth considering.
> >>
> >> cheers
> >>
> >> Daniel
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Kian T. Gould schrieb:
> >>
>
> >> > Hi guys
> >> >
> >> > Thanks a lot for this new extension which was IMHO very overdue. I
>
> >> think
>
> >> > the features are getting there now but after a first trial we
> noticed a
> >> > major flaw of the system, which is the voting ability. We added our
> >> > largest and most complex reference CISCO Systems to the list, which
> is
> >> > currently definitely the biggest reference on the list because so
> far
> >> > mostly small projects were added and what happened? It was voted
>
> >> down by
>
> >> > a lot of people that added small projects and voted for them
> themselves
> >> > and is now not even under the Top sites anymore. When a potential
> >> > corporation interested in using TYPO3 sees these Top sites, they
> >> > probably would think that TYPO3 is a small community platform and
> not
> >> > suitable for their needs and rather turn to other systems which is
> >> > exactly what we don't want with a system like this. This way again
> we
> >> > have an unqualified listing of references that has some more info
>
> >> but is
>
> >> > in no way more differenciating than the old system.
> >> >
> >> > There are two sites there right now that deserve to be their IMHO,
>
> >> those
>
> >> > being fotobuch AG and Tourismus Hamburg (and CISCO of course :-) )
> but
> >> > the rest is really not a great presentation of the TYPO3 power.
> >> >
> >> > Therefore I would like to open the discussion to ideas and
> suggestions
> >> > how a voting process could be done in a way that the Top sites are
> >> > really representations of the power of TYPO3 and not a result of
> voting
> >> > manipulation. If you totally don't agree with me please also give
> your
> >> > input, maybe I am looking at this from the wrong perspective.
> >> >
> >> > Best Regards
> >> > Kian
> >> >
>
> >