[TYPO3-hci] Producing "reports" with TYPO3

[Lucas Thurston]

Berhard,
Unfortunately, it seems you have misunderstood me from the get-go.

Please see below.

Bernhard Kraft wrote:
> Jean-Baptiste Rio wrote:
> 
>> Many of us are interested, it's a great job ;) Is there a particular
>> raison that you don't want to upload it in the TER ?
> 
> Yes :( Money.
> 
> 
> First of all let me say that I leave a little bit out of my mind which isn't really related
> to you but to others who send me "feature requests" and somehow "demand" I will implement them.
> 
> 

I'd rather not repost my message, but all I said was it would be a good 
feature.  I also said I would be interested in working on it myself.  I 
asked what it wold take to implement.  I clearly was willing to put in 
some work on it.  You volunteered your extension.

> 
> Im a freelancer since last years November and don't write extension "just-for-fun"
> anymore ...
> 
> It took me about 5 days to write this extension but until know I couldn't really sell
> it (A customer meant that this was part of the project).
> 
> I already mailed with Lucas Thurston and what he stated is something I asked myself a
> long time but can only decline:
> ------------
> Given the freedom of the GPL you  might  be unwilling--understandably--to give away what you have  created.
> ------------
> 
> More or less (As I understand it) he write: You must give it because it is GPL.
> 

I meant exactly the opposite.  I don't even know how you could reach the 
conclusion you've reached.  The extension is yours, if you give it away 
to someone halfway around the world who you don't know, you've lost 
"control" of it.  Demanding someone's code is ridiculous, and that's not 
what I did.

Moreover, I did not take a quote from my email offlist, quote it, 
misinterpret it and blow it out of proportion, and essentially slander 
the author.


> 1* Who says it's GPL ... I'm not using any code of the TYPO3 core ... So I'm just doing API calls like
> Linux Kernel modules do ... which can be NON-GPL. (See recent dicussion "24iX bietet Extension zum Kauf?
> on the german mailinglist : http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-german/2006-May/016585.html )
> 
> 
> 2* I do not belive that even if something IS under the GPL that someone can force you to give it away
> for free !!! This is a usual misunderstanding of the GPL. If this would be the case OpenSource business
> could completly not work !!!
> 
> If I have a Linux-Kernel on my USB stick ... and you say: "Give it to me" ... I do not have to do that. I
> can say: Yes. But only if you give me 10,- € for carrying it around with my USB stick .... In the same manner
> I can say: Yes. But only if you give me xx,- € for writing the extension ....
> 
> I do not want to "sell" it forever ... I WILL put it under the GPL and put it in TER ... but only after my
> work has been paid somehow ...
> 
> I mean: YOU create websites for cutomers and get money ... I do that less (were do you get your customers from ? :)
> But rather write extension for other media-agencies ... If now somebody comes up and means: Give me everthing for
> free ? What the heck ?!?!?
> 
> 
> I think 1.000,- € would be ok for this extension ... And of course not a single person has to pay that but some
> companies could pay a part.
> 
> 
> Another thing: With every extension I put into TER sometimes someone happens to find a bug ... I am most of the time
> willing to fix those .... for free...
> But you will notice that as more extensions I put into TER the more work I get which I "have to" do for free ....
> 
> Sometimes people also come up with feature request an mean I should do them "just because they want to" ...
> 
> 
> I'm really annoyed and a little bit angry on all those people who think that extension for TYPO3 are completly free
> of charge !!!
> 
> The GPL states: Take it as it is or leave it ...
> 
> 
> PS: Usually I don't like money at all ... but since I am a freelance I somehow had to change my mind regarding this
> issue. Else my company wont work.
> 

No point in responding to this, since I think everyone agrees with you.

I understand your anger, but it's misdirected in this case.  I write GPL 
code too and I know the difficulties of being a freelancer.  I thought I 
was pretty clear in my email to you that it makes sense to not allow 
try-before-you-buy given the GPL, so I'm a little surprised to be the 
target of your venom.

best,
Lucas