[TYPO3-ect] tx_party - Extension

[Christoph Koehler]

In article
<mailman.1.1209282342.11904.typo3-team-extension-coordination at lists.net
fielders.de> "Dr. Ronald P. Steiner" <Ronald.Steiner at googlemail.com>
wrote:
>  Hi List,

>  I'm glad to see that there is still interest on the partner / party
> / tx_party / wec_people extension.

>  The extension name went through many changes, and it still still
> confuses me. If I look at: http://typo3xdev.sourceforge.net/
>  - there are still "nightly snapshots" of the "partner" and "party"
> extension. What about them? Are they still developed?

I don't know of any way to change that. It's the old code on
sourceforge. The new repo is at
svn.webempoweredchurch.org/wec_people.I will also make sure to allow
tickets to registered users.
>  I know that the Web Empowered Church does a lot for the community
> and their extensions are excellent! I'm very happy and grateful that
> WEC does this important work. But the prefix "wec_" does stop me in
> getting involved for several reasons:
>  1) I feel the prefix "wec_" does not state clearly that it could be
> a team project where people outside of "WEC" contribute.

It can be a team project, so you can contribute. Hope that clears that
up.
>  2) If the extension is named "tx_xyz" it is a neutral name. The
> manual can state who is involved in the developing process.

See the other posts in this list for the reasons why we changed the
name.
>  3) I think it is not fair to the effort of David Bruehlmeier. When
> he started it was no "WEC" project, but a general project.

David asked us to take over, so not only is it fair, it's intended.
You can look at his replies too.
>  4) I do honor the effort of "WEC" and I do respect the religious
> background. But the religious background is not mine. So I do not
> want to develop in a "WEC" project.

It will still be mainly a WEC project if we rename it. The amount you
can contribute doesn't depend on the name.
>  5) The prefix "wec_" for me sounds like the extension is specially
> tailored for "WEC" needs. What we need is a general extension, that
> can be used for many needs.

It's not. It's the same it always was and will be the same. It's a
data model.
>  So here is my suggestion for a road map to get the extension back to
> main community and then get an initial release in the TER:
>  1) If Christoph Koehler is happy with it, we could discuss about a
> new extension key that does not start with "wec_" or any other
> company / project / sponsor. - If the new name is settled I could
> take care for the necessary changes in the code.

We may rename it, like Jeff stated. It depends on the involvement of
the community. There is a lot of talk again, as there was before, and
we will see if it turns into action. If not, we won't rename it. If
so, it's more likely.

>  2) There needs to be a project page, where the project is clearly
> defined and the milestones are figured out. This is a task Christoph
> Koehler has to do. He continued with the development so the
> information found here cant be up to date:
>  http://www.bruehlmeier.com/tx_party/uml/index.htm?goto=3:13
>  http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Party_Information_Framework
>  - When there are new milestones that are clearly defined I will take
> care for the solution of one after the other.

The information on the wiki is still largely up to date and relevant.
All we have been doing is fix a few bugs in the data model. So pick a
task, get the creative juices flowing and start coding. You know where
to reach us if you have specific questions.
>  3) We need to gather together a coordination team. A team that knows
> the road map and the concepts. People like Christoph Koehler and
> David Bruehlmeier. Who wants to join in? Who wants to participate in
> the project?

Despite the formalities, just start doing stuff. It's my experience
that a lot of people volunteer to join teams, they get their name on
the wiki, and then nothing else. Seeing as the info on the wiki is
still relevant, just go for it. Ask us questions if you have any. You
are all adults that should be able to work without much supervision. I
really don't want this to drown in another "designed by committee"
project.


Christoph






>  Dr. Ronald P. Steiner schrieb:
>>   Hi List,
>>   
>>   does some one happen to know the where about of the "tx_party"
>> Extension  and the entire "party" project. David Bruehlmeier put a
>> lot of effort in  this project.
>>   I think the idea of having a common framework to handle data of
>> people  like mail, name, birth date and joining together the various
>> information  like be_users, fe_users, newsletter-lists, ... is
>> brilliant and very  promising.
>>   I read the Wiki and the team page of the project: 
>>   http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Party_Information_Framework
>>   But it seams like there is not much change these days.
>>   
>>   Is the project still alive? Who is working on it currently?
>>   How can I support the project? Maybe a good defined programming
>> task? 
>>   How about the authors of other extensions, like tt_address,
>> direct_mail_subscription, sp_directory, sa_adressexport,
>> sr_email_subscribe, gb_newsletter, sg_adress, ast_addresszipsearch,
>> m1address_us, cl_company_database, csextfeadr, address, rs_userimp,
>> dmaddredit, emailimport, dublefinder, icr_be_addr_dmail_cat,
>> kj_tt_address_mailflag, contactlist, feuserextrafields, sg_userdata,
>>  eu_birthdays, bzd_staff_directory, ....
>>   What do you think about this project? Is it promising in your eyes
>> also? 
>>   Has anybody already tested the tx_party extension? What are your
>> impressions? Is it a good basis? Was it already possible to include
>> newsletters and other extensions to it?
>>   
>>   greetings
>>   
>>   Ron

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