[TYPO3-ect] lib/div 1.0 - it's time to say thank you

[R. van Twisk]

Steffen Kamper wrote:
> "R. van Twisk" <typo3 at rvt.dds.nl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
> news:mailman.63125.1168114209.21325.typo3-team-extension-coordination at lists.netfielders.de...
>   
>> Elmar HInz wrote:
>>     
>>>> Hey Elmar,
>>>>
>>>> today I took a quick glance at the tx_lib library and tx_div library...
>>>>
>>>> tx_div seems to be very minimalistic and provides almost the same 
>>>> functions as
>>>> t3lib_div:: I currently don't see a real advantage of tx_lib, specially 
>>>> that api_macmade
>>>> as a magnitude more usefull functions (+16000 downloads....)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Hi Ries,
>>>
>>> I need to say that such a remark make me a little angry. Why did we start
>>> the Extension Coordination Team? Because extensions like api_macmade,
>>> obts, kb_shop, ameos_formidable etc. are all full of experience and
>>> usefull concepts. But they are all one man shows and don't work together.
>>> We don't need a million of incompatible extensions in TER but a few
>>> hundred of compatible ones. So we started ECT as a forum to bring the 
>>> best
>>> concepts of the best together and to improve the TYPO3 project as a 
>>> whole.
>>>
>>>       
>> Hey Elmar,
>>
>> didn't wan't to make you angry, in my mind I was just wondering why we 
>> couldn't join
>> forces with already existing great extensions, invite this people over.
>>
>> My sinsire apologizes for making you feel like that...
>>
>> But then again I am not to involved into ECT...
>> Would it be a good idea to make a interface from tx_div to several 
>> extension?
>>
>>
>>
>>     
>>> But did you ever see Jerome Schneider, Dan Frost, Bernhard Kraft,
>>> Jean-David Gadina, Rupert Germann, just as a few examples for others,
>>> taking up this chance joinig the team, searching for common guidelines,
>>> interfaces etc.? I didn't. Obviously they prefer their one man show to 
>>> the
>>> benefit of the whole.
>>>
>>>       
>> very much true I am afraid...... Which is a bad thing as a whole for typo3 
>> (to much duplicates).
>>     
>>> Is this the nature of extension developers? Are they all unable to do the
>>> minimum of self organization? Isn't there a way? See the long list of
>>> subscribers to ECT: http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Ect. Now, who has
>>> contributed to the common library so far? 2 people, Franz Holzinger and
>>> me. lib and div are on the common extension developer platform typo3xdev
>>> for over 6 monthes now!!!!
>>>
>>>       
>> what could be the reason for that?
>>
>>     
>
> i think one reason is that all developers earn their mony developing 
> solutions for their clients. There you have a small time budget and 
> sometimes not the chance to give your work to TER.
> I try to find a balance, e.g. instead of creating new extensions i joined 
> cal to help there.
>
> But anyway you're right - I miss all the gurus in the newsgroups helping 
> others understanding the core. Or supporting dev-teams.
> But this is a human issue as well ...
>
> anyway i try my best to support the community.
>
> vg  Steffen
>
>   

Agreed... it is sometimes hard to get a extension universal enough to 
bring it on TER.
I needed a shop system, but decided to write something on my own because 
my data was
totally differently organized then a 'classic' categeory/product system. 
I see this
for many extensions doing the same.

I am always helping out on #typo3 at freenode.org. day by day... Sometimes 
even
logging in to typo3 systems of people I only know from alias!

Anyways... every now I then I update my extensions that are on TER and 
create new once
latest extension is rvt_irclog.....


thanks for the great work to everybody anyways!


Ries