[TYPO3-core] Review system woes

[Jigal van Hemert]

Hi,

On 8-2-2013 10:41, Daniel Alder wrote:
> Am 08.02.2013 09:30, schrieb Georg Ringer:
>> every core member knows all the other members and got most of them in
>> skype, ...
>
> ...of course this is true for core member. but if i am not
> (non-core-devs) then it not that effective...

You can find email addresses of almost everybody in the mailing lists / 
newsgroups. Many core members publish their skype/twitter/whatever 
contact info when they are Friendly Ghost.

>> that is just a wrong assumption. Not every agency uses LTS ;)
> no, proof the opposite! ;)

It probably depends on what the agency thinks they can sell and the type 
of clients they have.
The agency I work for has in the offers and contracts that the latest 
stable version is used (unless stated otherwise). There is some delay in 
using the latest version (testing extensions, etc.), but no new projects 
have been started lately with 4.5 LTS.
For closed source CMSs clients would have to pay yearly licensing on top 
of other support costs. Costs for core upgrades are very cheap compared 
to this.

> just an example with 4.7:
> i have to wait till the newest typo3 core is "stable" and reasonable for
> customers (2012-04-25 + one or two months?). if it's stable make all my
> "tools" work again or taking new features in account. start the project
> (autumn 2012). big projects need time. so several months and my project
> finished (first quarter 2013). costumer is testing and adding contents
> (+ 1 or 2 months). costumer is happy with his new product (end of first
> quarter 2013).
> ...in the meantime a knew typo3 version was released. and oh! i have to
> tell the customer a half year later, that his project needs to be
> updated - end of maintenance. he is laughs...

This explains a lot. Many agencies manage to realize projects a lot 
faster. Very often content is added during the project, even before the 
bugfixing period.
You don't have to wait for 6 months to update your "tools".

Also, if you don't jump from LTS to LTS the changes for your "tools" are 
a lot less and you can keep them up-to-date a lot faster and easier.

> ...so what would you prefer as an agency?
> LTS or the newest core ;)

Newest core. LTS would mean that you really don't care about all the 
bugfixes and new features that went into newer versions.

-- 
Jigal van Hemert
TYPO3 Core Team member

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