[TYPO3-core] RFC: #8939: Menu sitemap doesn't respect pages field

[Steffen Kamper]

Dmitry Dulepov [typo3] schrieb:
> Hi!
> 
> Steffen Kamper wrote:
>> Bugtracker references:
>>
>> http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=8939
>>
>> Branches: 4.2, trunk
>>
>> Problem:
>> there is something missing in
>> tt_content.menu.20.2
>>
>> All other menu types are copied from default and modified, so they have
>> special = list
>> special.value.field = pages
>>
>> Solution:
>> Modification is one line:
>> instead of 2 = HMENU
>> use
>> 2 < .default
>> and all is done.
>>
>> Leaving field pages empty shows complete sitemap, so it doesn't break 
>> backwards compatibility.
> 
> I do not think that this solution is correct. I did not test it but here 
> is my thoughts.
> 
> Sitemap displays content of the current site, not the whole tree. 
> Imagine the following structure:
> 
> Globe
> |-- Page
>    |-- Site root  <-- root TS template
>       |-- Subpage
> 
> Currently sitemap will display every page starting from "Site root" 
> page. Proposed solution will force sitemap to start from the globe level 
> because "pages" field will be empty, which is equivalent to making SQL 
> query with pid=0. This is not correct. This will break site maps in 
> multipage setups.
> 
> Even more, the patch from http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=3705 is 
> wrong too. It converts sitemap to "Menu of subpages to these pages", 
> which is a wrong thing to do. Sitemap is sitemap, its starting point is 
> root of the web site. "Menu of subpages to these pages" has starting 
> point and does exactly what #8939 and #3705 do. Both bugs should be 
> discarded as wrong.
> 
> So -1 for now.
> 

you're absolutely right.
I think the misleading part (include for me) is that in most cases you 
need menu of subpages, but the CType is named "sitemap" also in new 
record wizard, and default value is sitemap.
This might be one reason why Ernesto's posted TS is used by many people.

I suppose to hide pages field for this entry to clearify, and may be a 
second wizard for Menu of Subpages?

vg Steffen