[TYPO3-core] RFC: #7986: Vertical aligned Icons in List-Module

Martin Kutschker Martin.Kutschker at n0spam-blackbox.net
Wed Apr 9 09:46:48 CEST 2008


Steffen Kamper schrieb:
>>> May be we make some enhancements in 4.2.1 or following.
 >>
>> I'm really grateful that you guys take care of the UI. Yet I 'm worried 
>> that you think of it as a playground that you can shift around as you 
>> like. But you cannot!
> 
> this is not the result of a playground. The listview atm looks terrible and 
> will confuse editors more. What we did is not changing an ui, we aligned it 
> with css, so it looks tidy. That makes it more easy for an editor to find 
> the tools.

Right. So I askied you to finish those changes. Your proposal is not good 
enough for the final release. If things are horrible I'm sure you'll get a 
RC2 next week, so you can polish the stff a bit more.
	
>> Many editors need training and in a commercial context you cannot allow 
>> the UI to change every time. This will disturb editors, require additional 
>> training which in turn will in turn be a problem for those in charge of 
>> finance.
> 
> we didn't changed any icon. We followed a proposal from Jens Hoffmann, who 
> demonstrated his proposals a long time ago to the community. You find his 
> prposal in BT.

I don't question your and his good intentions. I don't even oppose the 
changes as such. I'm only saying that the UI is the "contract" with the 
editor/user, such as is the API with the developer.

>> If TYPO3 is to be an enterprise CMS it has to be stable and predictable. 
>> and ever shifting UI is not.
>>
>> So here's a -1 to allow UI changes in the 4.2.x branch in advance ;-)
> 
> please compare it with the actual list view.

The -1 is for changes AFTER the release of 4.2.0 final. Before that you can 
change it as often as you like (in RC2, RC3, etc).

Masi


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