[TYPO3-mvc] QAW: Simple question!? Filter List with localization...

Mon Jan 20 14:30:45 CET 2014

Hi Markus.

First I have to excuse for my bad spelling. I had several interruptions when writing my first mail and I wasn't completely awake, at 11:30 in the morning :).

Of course you're right, there are multiple ways of making the database "aware" of TCA stuff.

* I suggested a view. This contains lots of "IF" statements in the select, but that shouldn't be a problem. The drawback of views is: They usually cause trouble when dumping and importing databases. And I think we cannot rely on having a database user being privileged to create views. Of course we can make this a requirement, but that could simply kick a lot of people. If there is a way which doesn't include raising requirements above the usual, that should be preferred, imho.

* You suggested a stored procedure. On top of the drawbacks of a view, a stored procedure has to be really well designed in order to allow the database to make optimizations. Usually introducing a stored procedure separates an SQL mechanism into two different parts and causes the database to optimize them individually, which usually results in a lot worse optimization results than having done it based on a single huge query. I'm not saying stored procedures are slow, which isn't the case at all. But they provide the opportunity to be, quite easily.

* Instead of a view, we always can do the "viewy" part inline as the "FROM" part of the actual SELECT statement. The huge drawback of this is huge amounts of data going from the webserver to the SQL server just as a query string. That's pretty bad.

And all of them have a common problem: Performance. Having such a thing like "dynamic partial overlay" just as a source for the SELECT most likely causes every tiny SELET to make full table scans. Maybe except those that as "WHERE uid=", but everything else will cause the SQL performance decrease a lot.

That's another reason why I don't know if calling the current behavior an urgent bug and fixing it in a general way is such a good idea. On a plain academic point of view it is, of course. But the real world can live without that, I guess. Let's fix it on demand where it is required to be fixed.

If it comes to those huge SQL things and performance, I would give "materialized views" a try. Create a stored procedure which fetches the "overlayed SQL table" for each existing table/language combination and creates a single SQL table that 100% reflects the language overlayed version. Additionally, create a database trigger which calls this particular stored procedure every time the source table gets updated. Make SELECT statements against this overlayed table and write operations against the original one ... and mind that we drop ~90% of the worlds TYPO3 instances because they have no access to triggers and stored procedures. So this isn't a good idea, too.

Well, even if he's not here at the moment, but I can just feel my college pointing with our huge "complexity kills" sign pointing at me right now.

Regards,

Stephan Schuler
Web-Entwickler

Telefon: +49 (911) 539909 - 0
E-Mail: Stephan.Schuler at netlogix.de
Website: media.netlogix.de

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: typo3-project-typo3v4mvc-bounces at lists.typo3.org [mailto:typo3-project-typo3v4mvc-bounces at lists.typo3.org] Im Auftrag von Markus Klein
Gesendet: Montag, 20. Januar 2014 13:31
An: 'TYPO3 v4 MVC project'
Betreff: Re: [TYPO3-mvc] QAW: Simple question!? Filter List with localization...

Hi Stephan,

very nice summary.
It shows the complexity of the involved methods.
One way to solve the overlay stuff could be to do it in stored procedures on the DB. Hence you can apply filtering etc on the result of the procedure.

One thing I'd like to add: We do not always do overlaying in language processing, it strongly depends on the TS settings. So never assume the user of an extension actually does use overlaying. ;-)

Kind regards
Markus

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Markus Klein
TYPO3 CMS Active Contributors Team Member

> -----Original Message-----
> From: typo3-project-typo3v4mvc-bounces at lists.typo3.org [mailto:typo3-
> project-typo3v4mvc-bounces at lists.typo3.org] On Behalf Of Stephan
> Schuler
> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 11:40 AM
> To: 'Alex Kellner'; 'TYPO3 v4 MVC project'
> Subject: [TYPO3-mvc] QAW: Simple question!? Filter List with localization...
>
> Hey there.
>
>
> I faced a problem which might be related to this. Form a very
> superficial perspective it this could be the case for what you experience.
>
> The thing is: The Typo3DbBackend limits queries to "sys_language_uid
> IN (0, - 1)", which is "default language and 'all'", but no
> translation value and no "language record which isn't a translation".
>
> I do have a change for this, but since it's a very central behavior of
> the current Extbase and changing it would be very very breaking, I
> think we cannot call it a bug even if it might be one.
>
> My solution for now goes by "xclass" the Typo3DbBackend. Xclassing
> stuff always is pretty ugly, but I didn't find a better solution until now.
>
> That's the TypoScript:
> >
> config.tx_extbase.objects.Tx_Extbase_Persistence_Storage_BackendInterf
> > ace.className =
> Tx_Yourextension_Persistence_Storage_Typo3DbBackend
>
> And here's the PHP stuff:
> > http://pastebin.com/GiXscvx0
>
>
> This doesn't really *solve* your problem because you have a
> translation (sys_language_uid=1, l10n_parent=0) instead of a
> "not-translated foreign language record" (sys_language_uid=1, l10n_parent=$parentRecord).
> But maybe you find a solution based on my explanation.
>
>
> Think about this situation:
>
> Record 1: uid=100, sys_language_uid=0, l10n_parent=0, title="a" -
> default language, so no translation.
> Record 2: uid=101, sys_language_uid=1, l10n_parent=100, title="a" -
> translation of the first record Record 3: uid=102, sys_language_uid=1,
> l10n_parent=0, title="a" - not a translation, but originally created
> as foreign- language record
>
> Search for "a" in sys_language_uid=1.
>
> The default behavior of would resoult only uid=100 because it matches,
> and do the language overlay to uid=101 after that.
> My change directly finds uid=100 and uid=102. The uid=100 will be
> overlayed by uid=101 just like normal.
>
> From this example you can see: Both "SELECT" statements do not
> directly search the uid=101-Record. The 101 is only returned as an
> overlay of 100, but not covered by the raw SQL.
> If you extend the "addSysLanguageStatement" to cover the
> uid=101-record as well, you will find all three records -- which is plain wrong, too.
>
> So a generic solution isn't that simple.
>
> The main problem (imho) is, that there is partial overlay caused by
> TCA (fallback fields). This always requires PHP side post processing.
> If your SELECT stuff (no matter if it is high level like QOM) targets
> values that are only calculated (fallback fields that are taken from
> sys_language_uid=0 because they are either not translated at all or
> "mergeIfNotBlank") and hence this requires PHP processing, that thingy
> completely destroys lazy Query execution and query processing which is a central feature of e.g. pagination.
> I really hope I could explain the problem properly. It's a very
> annoying show stopper because this means calculating SELECT properly
> and performance boosts like pagination will never occur at the same time :(.
>
> A really generic solution would create TCA based view on the database
> and throw a SELECT statement. But I doubt anybody will transform TCA
> to SQL just to make SELECT against it. There are ~6500 lines of code
> in the TCEmain / DataHandler, and I guess ~2000 of them would be
> required to be migrated to a huge "TcaSqlFactory". That's way out of
> scope, imho. This doesn't stop with language. If you have
> versioning/workspaces, there's another layer of complexity which goes
> by the very same principles  -- overlaying that needs to be done in
> the database to have generically processed scope to apply filters to.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Stephan Schuler
> Web-Entwickler
>
> Telefon: +49 (911) 539909 - 0
> E-Mail: Stephan.Schuler at netlogix.de
> Website: media.netlogix.de
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> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: typo3-project-typo3v4mvc-bounces at lists.typo3.org [mailto:typo3-
> project-typo3v4mvc-bounces at lists.typo3.org] Im Auftrag von Alex
> Kellner
> Gesendet: Montag, 20. Januar 2014 10:59
> An: typo3-project-typo3v4mvc at lists.typo3.org
> Betreff: [TYPO3-mvc] Simple question!? Filter List with localization...
>
> I ran into a strange problem with extbase and maybe someone knows the
> answer.
>
> *Configuration:*
> * Let's create a simple Object with just one property (e.g. title)
> * Configure TYPO3 with &L=0 for german and &L=1 for english
> * In addition add one record in the backend list view and localize it
> (see attached image) - I wrote "deutsch" and "english" in both titles.
>
> *Extension:*
> 1) Add a FE Plugin with a controller and make a findAll() in the
> controller. You will see the germany record in L=0 and the english
> record in L=1 - so far so good
> 2) Now we want to add a filter field over the list. Let's create an
> own repository method:
> <pre>
>         public function findByTitleTest() {
>                 $query = $this->createQuery();
>
>                 $query->matching(
>                         $query->like('title', 'eng%')
>                 );
>
>                 return $query->execute();
>         }
> </pre>
> You will not find a record with "eng%" in &L=1 but you will find a
> record with "deu%".
>
> Tested in TYPO3 4.5 and 4.7
>
> Is this a bug or do we need to do the localization by our own with
> setRespectSysLanguage(FALSE);?
>
> My Test extension as t3x file for download:
> www [dot] in2code [dot] de/fileadmin/user_upload/T3X_tt_news-3_4_0-z-
> 201401201049.t3x
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