[TYPO3-doc] thanks to the doc team!!!

[Stefano Cecere]

thank you Francois for explaining all the situation.

actually, by "resources" i didn't really mean "Money"..
i should have used the term "care, attention"

for example to not release any stable version without all the docs updated.
not allow extension in TER without minimal docs
ask every developer who has budget, to invest at least 15% (?) of the time  
in writing good quality (and english ;) docs

see my point? it's mostly no about money!

for my part: i'm trying to keep updated all the italian translations and  
overview the Extbase book

good work!
ciao
stefano



On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:22:59 +0100, François Suter <fsu-lists at cobweb.ch>  
wrote:

> Hi Stefano,
>
>> i have updated all the core manuals with latest (many) new versions
>>
>> i just wanted to thank you to the doc team!
>> how good and updated manuals are important to develop well and feel
>> comfortable with TYPO3!
>
> Thanks a lot for your encouragements. Words of gratitude help us plowing  
> on :-)
>
>> i wish the Association would give much more resources to the docs area
>
> This is not a simple issue. First of all you don't get money out of the  
> blue, you have to make a budget request to the Association, which is  
> fair enough IMO. And actually for the first time the Documentation Team  
> has some budget this year, because I made 2 requests last year, which  
> were granted.
>
> There's a small budget strictly for official documentation maintenance  
> and a larger budget for migration to reStructured Text (originally  
> migration to DocBook). I see the budget for documentation maintenance  
> more as a sign of gratitude for a tedious job that needs to be done. For  
> the reST migration the budget is rather meant to pay for someone's work  
> when we come to areas that will need more effort.
>
> Having a budget is only part of the problem and I must say that it was  
> easy getting one. I had no trouble justifying the budget requests and  
> they were granted by the Association without further questions (I guess  
> my requests were very reasonable). The next issue is finding people.  
> Just from a personal point of view, budget doesn't help as I mostly lack  
> time. But it is possible to find people.
>
> There remains the problem of actually having money to distribute. In the  
> case of the 2 budgets available this year, their aims are quite well  
> defined, so deciding who should benefit from them (based on work done)  
> is not very difficult. However the sudden "intrusion" of money in a team  
> where there was never any before now does cause some disruption and some  
> people were not happy about it. I also feel that having a budget makes  
> more sense when you have a clear project (like the migration to reST)  
> rather than the general maintenance.
>
> All in all it's not simple and that's why I didn't apply again for  
> budgets for 2012. So if the Doc Team doesn't have budgets next year it's  
> actually entirely my fault. And what I regret - retrospectively - is to  
> have taken this decision alone rather than debating it here in the  
> mailing list. The fact that the reminder for budget requests came quite  
> late (as usual) and I should have planned it in advance. Now I made  
> myself a note for next year to get and early start and discuss the point  
> of having budget in this list.
>
> Cheers
>


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