[TYPO3-performance] SEO-Urls and Performance

[Jonas Eberle]

Hi Stephan,

thank you for your input.

Am 15.12.2014 um 11:23 schrieb Stephan Schuler:
> You should really tell some numbers to clarify what's a high load page for you.
We hope to get concrete data this week of the current website. The 
optimization needs to get page generation times down for any page, 
though. Even a clean Typo3 can easily get to 1000ms in low-load 
situations. These 1000ms are our upper limit for all pages in all 
situations, though.
> I can't tell you any of mine because I don't know them. But whoever is willing to compare his performance with yours might need those numbers.
> What's the 25ms for? For one page load? For 1000 typolinks generated?
That's for a single generated link. On a site with low load.
> We use realurl exclusively. We tried other mapping mechanisms every now and then but usually at some point there are some missing features that realurl just provides. I can't tell you any specifics because it's been quite some time now since we last checked, but I know that's usually the reason to stick to realurl.
Thank you for that input. We'll check after initial development if we 
can get away with it.
> Did you find out if it's realurl or the typolink itself? Did you get real performance improvements when disabling realurl completely just to find out if it *can* get any better at all?
With deactivated realurl performance went up (less time to generate the 
page). It had a near-linear relation with the number of generated links. 
Even with just some menu links displayed in a 'clean' (Typo3 with 
bootstrap-distribution package) an enabled realurl is noticable.
> I tend to introduce lots of caching wherever possible.
Thank you. Especially for your examples. That is how we will tackle our 
bottlenecks as well but we hope to do searching without solr.


Regards,
Jonas


> - -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: typo3-performance-bounces at lists.typo3.org [mailto:typo3-performance-bounces at lists.typo3.org] Im Auftrag von Jonas Eberle
> Gesendet: Montag, 15. Dezember 2014 10:58
> An: typo3-performance at lists.typo3.org
> Betreff: Re: [TYPO3-performance] SEO-Urls and Performance
>
> Dear list,
>
> Sorry, I need to catch up on this.
> Asked differently: do you use realurl in high-load environments?
>
> Best regards,
> Jonas
>
>
> Am 11.12.2014 um 10:13 schrieb Jonas Eberle:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> tl;dr: realurl is slow. we are looking for a lightweight solution to
>> generate <a href>-links for freely assignable SEO-Urls and a solution
>> to send incoming requests to the corresponding pages/plugins/actions.
>>
>>
>> for a new project we are considering the performance of SEO-Urls.
>> These are the requirements:
>> * high-load site
>> * many lists (or maps) with many objects that need links to their
>> detail pages
>> * strong focus on SEO
>> * the links need to be COMPLETELY user-definable (probably down to any
>> single object) - including folders
>>
>> We can only build on experience with realurl. We experienced long
>> generation times for links in another project (typically > 25ms, which
>> is not feasable for long lists). We tried with either the Fluid
>> <f:link.action> - Viewhelpers or directly from the code with the
>> UriBuilder-class with same results. In the end we had to implement our
>> own cache for generated links just to speed this up a bit.
>>
>> Could it be that this had to do with an activated tq_seo?
>> Do you have any ideas how to approach this?
>> Is cooluri a quicker option?
>> How would you do when rewriting that on your own? (we were thinking of
>> a DB-table with pageUid, plugin, controller, action & parameters to
>> generate links and a backend module that saves Apache-redirection
>> (internal, not via HTTP-Status) rules into .htaccess as a sleek
>> solution)
>>
>> Thank you for your input!
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jonas
>>
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