[Typo3-marketing] DBAL: Call for sponsors

Fri Apr 2 14:59:55 CEST 2004

Hi Kieran,
> 
> I just received your bill for 100 Euros for DBAL development. Did you send a
> bill to all consultancies or only to those volunteering?

Only to those volunteering, of course.

Meanwhile the CVS-source has a centralized class for dbqueries and we are
testing a first version of the DBAL-extension building on the archtitecture.
The first two db's to develop handlers will be postgres and oracle 9.

Cheers

Daniel

> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Kieran Given
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 03.03.2004 17:58 Uhr, "Daniel Hinderink [TYPO3]" <daniel at typo3.com>
> wrote:
> 
>>> How about we make a plea for all consultancies 448 of them to contribute a
>>> minimum of 100 Euros this year to development?
>> 
>> I don't think we could get this through in time.
>> 
>> Generally, I think we have a good selection of clients who might be
>> interested and why not ask them?
>> 
>> Generally, I am pretty sure we will get something together, if some of you
>> try their luck with your clients.
>> 
>> It will make a huge difference to us all regarding market reach, so we
>> should be ready to go for it, I think.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Kieran
>>> 
>>> Am 03.03.2004 16:21 Uhr schrieb Daniel Hinderink [TYPO3] unter
>>> daniel at typo3.com:
>>> 
>>>>> Is this the current FUND status Daniel?
>>>>> 
>>>>> ********** ********** **********
>>>>> Funds †and †resource †estimation
>>>>> Databases †to †test †and †implement †handlers †are †already †in
>>>>> †place,†the
>>>>> †planning †phase †has †been †finished.
>>>>> Remaining †is †the †need †for †funds †to †sponsor †developers.
>>>>> The †core †work †will †need †18 †days †@†1100 †Euros †=†19800
>>>>> All †basic †Database †handlers †would †incurr †an †extimate †40 †days
>>>>> †@†700
>>>>> †days †=†28000
>>>>> In †practice †sponsors †will †have †a †preferred †RDBMS †they †will †be
>>>>> †interested †in.†Since †the †workload †varies
>>>>> dramatically,†for †instance †between †PostGreSQL †and †Oracle,†individual
>>>>> †sponsoring †for †each †of †the †possible
>>>>> systems †is †to †b †negotiated.
>>>>> Of †course †any †amount †is †welcome †to †fund †development.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ********** ********** **********
>>>>> 
>>>>> How many consultancies are registered? 50? 100? 200?
>>>> 
>>>> 448 Consultancies
>>>> 1140 Reference sites
>>>> 20.000 + websites
>>>> 7902 registered TYPO3.org users
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Daniel
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kieran
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 03.03.2004 15:39 Uhr schrieb Daniel Hinderink [TYPO3] unter
>>>>> daniel at typo3.com:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Kieran,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> how much money could be generated through the TYPO3 community directly?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Everybody gives € X and a couple of companies burning to get an oracle
>>>>>>> database connected to TYPO3 aswell?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That would be very good. So far sponsoring was mostly done by large
>>>>>> companies, like for TemplaVoilà and DAM. Most consultancies have not been
>>>>>> ready to invest in TYPO3's development.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What kind of figures/money/sponsorship do you need?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please check out the project description, section "funds".
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kieran
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Am 03.03.2004 15:25 Uhr schrieb Daniel Hinderink [TYPO3] unter
>>>>>>> daniel at typo3.com:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Ben,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> As it turns out, the time is just about right for getting DBAL done.
>>>>>>>>>> In fact there will be no 3.6.0 anywhere soon if we don't get the
>>>>>>>>>> sponsoring
>>>>>>>>>> together NOW because the ground work will need to be done for many
>>>>>>>>>> features
>>>>>>>>>> in demand.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi D.,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> What is this supposed to mean? No 3.6.0 anytime soon. Is DBAL that
>>>>>>>>> important? It was my understanding (with my limited knowledge of db's)
>>>>>>>>> that all the other db's do not play such an important role as more and
>>>>>>>>> more companies are comfortable using MyQL. I have no clients yet using
>>>>>>>>> 'alien' db's ;-) Does that mean "No sponsoring - No TYPO3 3.6.0"?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That means 3.6.0 will be delayed. The point is that DBAL serves as the
>>>>>>>> basis
>>>>>>>> for many other needed things, like versioning, etc. So we can't move on
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> tha way we'd like to, if we don't get some support.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Otherwise we have to go for other paid work first and the new version
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> be delayed. I hope you understand, but there is also a life to take
>>>>>>>> care
>>>>>>>> of.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It has become much easier to make DBAL through some changes in the core
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> it will never be as easy from now on. So we should not miss that
>>>>>>>> chance.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> gRTz
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ben
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
> 
> Viele Grüße,
> 
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