[Typo3-marketing] DBAL: Call for sponsors

[Kieran Given]

Hi Daniel,

I just received your bill for 100 Euros for DBAL development. Did you send a
bill to all consultancies or only to those volunteering?

Kind regards,

Kieran Given




On 03.03.2004 17:58 Uhr, "Daniel Hinderink [TYPO3]" <daniel at typo3.com>
wrote:

>> How about we make a plea for all consultancies 448 of them to contribute a
>> minimum of 100 Euros this year to development?
> 
> I don't think we could get this through in time.
> 
> Generally, I think we have a good selection of clients who might be
> interested and why not ask them?
> 
> Generally, I am pretty sure we will get something together, if some of you
> try their luck with your clients.
> 
> It will make a huge difference to us all regarding market reach, so we
> should be ready to go for it, I think.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Kieran
>> 
>> Am 03.03.2004 16:21 Uhr schrieb Daniel Hinderink [TYPO3] unter
>> daniel at typo3.com:
>> 
>>>> Is this the current FUND status Daniel?
>>>> 
>>>> ********** ********** **********
>>>> Funds †and †resource †estimation
>>>> Databases †to †test †and †implement †handlers †are †already †in †place,†the
>>>> †planning †phase †has †been †finished.
>>>> Remaining †is †the †need †for †funds †to †sponsor †developers.
>>>> The †core †work †will †need †18 †days †@†1100 †Euros †=†19800
>>>> All †basic †Database †handlers †would †incurr †an †extimate †40 †days
>>>> †@†700
>>>> †days †=†28000
>>>> In †practice †sponsors †will †have †a †preferred †RDBMS †they †will †be
>>>> †interested †in.†Since †the †workload †varies
>>>> dramatically,†for †instance †between †PostGreSQL †and †Oracle,†individual
>>>> †sponsoring †for †each †of †the †possible
>>>> systems †is †to †b †negotiated.
>>>> Of †course †any †amount †is †welcome †to †fund †development.
>>>> 
>>>> ********** ********** **********
>>>> 
>>>> How many consultancies are registered? 50? 100? 200?
>>> 
>>> 448 Consultancies
>>> 1140 Reference sites
>>> 20.000 + websites
>>> 7902 registered TYPO3.org users
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Kieran
>>>> 
>>>> Am 03.03.2004 15:39 Uhr schrieb Daniel Hinderink [TYPO3] unter
>>>> daniel at typo3.com:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Kieran,
>>>>> 
>>>>>> how much money could be generated through the TYPO3 community directly?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Everybody gives € X and a couple of companies burning to get an oracle
>>>>>> database connected to TYPO3 aswell?
>>>>> 
>>>>> That would be very good. So far sponsoring was mostly done by large
>>>>> companies, like for TemplaVoilà and DAM. Most consultancies have not been
>>>>> ready to invest in TYPO3's development.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> What kind of figures/money/sponsorship do you need?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please check out the project description, section "funds".
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> 
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kieran
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 03.03.2004 15:25 Uhr schrieb Daniel Hinderink [TYPO3] unter
>>>>>> daniel at typo3.com:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Ben,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> As it turns out, the time is just about right for getting DBAL done.
>>>>>>>>> In fact there will be no 3.6.0 anywhere soon if we don't get the
>>>>>>>>> sponsoring
>>>>>>>>> together NOW because the ground work will need to be done for many
>>>>>>>>> features
>>>>>>>>> in demand.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi D.,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What is this supposed to mean? No 3.6.0 anytime soon. Is DBAL that
>>>>>>>> important? It was my understanding (with my limited knowledge of db's)
>>>>>>>> that all the other db's do not play such an important role as more and
>>>>>>>> more companies are comfortable using MyQL. I have no clients yet using
>>>>>>>> 'alien' db's ;-) Does that mean "No sponsoring - No TYPO3 3.6.0"?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That means 3.6.0 will be delayed. The point is that DBAL serves as the
>>>>>>> basis
>>>>>>> for many other needed things, like versioning, etc. So we can't move on
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> tha way we'd like to, if we don't get some support.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Otherwise we have to go for other paid work first and the new version
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> be delayed. I hope you understand, but there is also a life to take care
>>>>>>> of.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It has become much easier to make DBAL through some changes in the core
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> it will never be as easy from now on. So we should not miss that chance.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> gRTz
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ben
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 

Viele Grüße,

Kieran Given
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