[Typo3-linux] LAMP installer script SuSE 8.2 issues

[Christoph Moeller]

Michael Stucki schrieb:

> Does this one work better?
> news://mailman.1054713200.27078.typo3-linux@lists.netfielders.de

no change. never mind.

> Anyway, the message I referenced was just two subjects before (reply to
> Martin Bertschi).

hmm, must have got lost during the crash - my mozilla as usual in such 
cases complained about missing post_id or something and I had to 
re-subscribe to the groups. Never received that one msg.
AND: I'll knowingly violate the rulez now and break exactly the thread 
you referred to by writing a reply to Martin Bertschi with a new msg, 
not by "send reply" >-) Kill me for that, hehe ;)

> No problem for me since PNG works great.
> Wait for this month when the LZW patent runs out. Maybe things will change
> now. But I still hope that people start using PNGs since these doesn't
> depend on such restricting patents.

well, yes, but IE f.ex. has a problem displaying alpha channel 
transparancy with png's - at least without funky JS workarounds - while 
transparent gif's work fine on all browsers.

>>c) cutting down my timetable AND costs AND nerves spent on all that
>>using a great script that does everything I usually do manually (which
>>won't work here on the 8.2 system shipped with the buggy gcc-3.3beta,
>>anyway)
> But what about security updates? Bugfixes?

sure, you're right about that - but I still prefer compiling from 
scratch with a script in a fast way that handles everything I could do 
manually. Upgrading is similar - either (bad idea) wait for Lars' new 
script or (better idea) adapt the script and rerun it with the bugfixed 
tar.gz's. I know it's not optimal, but it works and I have full control 
over the way stuff is being compiled.

>>e) the customer wanting a SuSE server - I know I _could_ be using
>>Debian..
> Correct.
> What does it help him if he uses a SuSE server where all important software
> packages are installed from scratch? I think it doesn't make any difference
> if it's SuSE or Debian now...

Re-useability of their own stuff written exclusively for SuSE is the key 
here...

> f) having used LL's script dozens of times successfully,
>>before...
> OK. I'm quite sure Lars hates me since I don't really like his packages ;-)
> Well, the packages and the script may be great, but the idea of using
> non-standard software packages on a server is a thorn in my side.

except for the patched gdlib and the testsite-db's (which I delete 
anyway), everything in Lars' package is plain, pure, standard tgz from 
the official sources.

>>There have even been reports that people can't compile a stock kernel on
>>SuSE 8.2 - you get the idea....
> Debian.
> ;-)

jihad ;)

>>p.s. it's too hot here, anyway ;)
> Splügen rulez! :-)

Yes, looking forward to next springtime :-)

greets,
Chris