[TYPO3-english] worried about 4.x (6.x)

[Georg Ringer]

Hi,

Am 12.10.2012 18:11, schrieb Thomas Skierlo:
> What I mean is the big
> picture of usability for one (still - or formerly important) target user
> group, the system integrators, who finally helped spreading the word. Do
> they still get what they need - in a way which is both understandable as
> well as sophisticated? Are all external extensions which are mission
> critical for a real ECMS brought to the next level or are at least
> substituted by solid replacements? No? Than stop the train or otherwise
> damage may occurr to the main product.

IMO integrators still get what they need. But of course I am a bit more
than integrator so maybe I overlook some things ... so what do you think
integrators need?

> That doesn't matter. As long as community extensions are needed for
> basic scaffolding within the CMS, they are of same importance as the
> core itself - at least in the real world. To name a few: Url-Management,
> News system, powerful templating. Ease of templating alway was one motor
> of success for TYPO3, and for many integrators this part is getting
> harder and harder with any new (sub)release.

What did get harder? And I believe that this is still something a
community can take care of. But yes - again - a FCE thing in the core
would be awesome and great.

Speaking for myself: having a news extension in core would not be fun at
all, as this has also several drawbacks like the release cycle. And just
because people are "only" integrators it doesn't mean they can't help
building or improving such extensions. There are many many things to do
and not just developing like:
- improving manuals: integrators are the ones who integrate the
extension, if something is missing in the manual, just add it there and
it will help every person.
- financing: yes of course this helps a lot and nobody says that 1
integrator needs to sponsor everything. take a look at gridelements 2.0
- or organize yourself in a mailinglist, forum wherever.

> Anyhow, maybe I stumble about my desire to use a product without any
> limitations, at least after having a time with a product like that
> (formerly known als TYPO3 :-). I'll keep on trying but I would like to
> switch on my personal little alarm light, which is flashing currently
> saying: "Something is going wrong right now. Something is moving much
> too fast."

Maybe the world is moving just fast ... in earlier days nobody knew what
an accordion is ;)

Georg