[TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 at the corner? How is it possible

Jigal van Hemert jigal at xs4all.nl
Sun Mar 11 09:56:22 CET 2012


On 8-3-2012 17:19, Andi wrote:
> The large clients like government dont care so much about finances.
> They can simply afford TYPO3.

In Europe there are rules for government bodies which force them to have 
an open bidding system for almost anything. If they need a new web site 
any company can make a bid and then a predefined scoring system 
determines who gets the job. So, if a TYPO3 agency gets to make a 
government site it's simply because they have won the bid (no only about 
the price, but a lot of factors are taken into account).

> Agencies in ASIA and I think same in Germany etc are using CMS like
> Joomla because they have tons of templates available, while we here
> just started to get this also for TYPO3.

Agencies here usually make more custom sites. This means that pre-made 
designs are useless to them; the web sites have a custom design, custom 
features, etc.
Some have made wizards for low budget TYPO3 hosting where clients can 
select a pre-made template. This is a small part of the market as far as 
I know.

> People are using Drupal because devs dont want to dig into TYPOscript
> before even having a look at it.

This is really a pity. People who are good with TypoScript can often do 
amazing things with just a few lines of code. How can we communicate the 
true nature of TypoScript? It's not a scripting language, it's not a 
real language, but can you describe TypoScript in a few line?

> What really brought us here most local customers is SECURITY. Show
> your customers a vulnerability and its fixes comparrison. This is the
> real big plus in comparison to all other CMS mentioned. Here it seems
> to be fun to hack websites and for Joomla you find even tools online
> to check where to get into a Joomla website.

Good point. Should be on the features list of TYPO3 from the marketing 

> TYPO3 has by far never such a dangerous suggestion and provides fixes
> usually right the way.

Good job of our security team!

> As A longterm investment there is simply no other FREE CMS which
> offered such high continuity since many years. Unfortunately this
> changed a lot when TYPO3 4.3 came out. Suddenly it looked for
> customers as if they are used as testing dummies like they knew it
> already from microsoft and co.
> Since.4.6.1 this had fortunately mostly stopped and updates dont
> break so much anymore like from 4.3 to 4.6.0

I haven't had these experiences. 4.6 broke a couple of extensions 
because these extensions used deprecated functions which were finally 
removed in that version. Some of those functions were marked as 
deprecated since 3.8! Extension devs obviously didn't have a look in the 
deprecation log.

Most upgrades I did were quite painless, but you have to be careful in 
every step you take.

In the core development backwards compatibility is really taken into 
account. In case there are breaking features there is often an upgrade 
wizard in the Install Tool.

> What is harming the most is actually the fact that there a new
> website project since 2007 made with developers from well known
> agencies and portfolio but they are not capable in more than 5 years
> to get this new site and the better TER up and running. Yes I am
> counting myself in here to for jobs we did for this project until mid
> 2008.

You've probably heard that the typo3.org relaunch will finally take 
place on April 2nd. This will also make it easier to make new features. 
The old site is on an installation that nobody really understood any 
more. I did some fixes on the current TER, but it was quite hard to find 
your way.

> A good website would stand out and would be the best advertisement.
> Instead many things are meanwhile "outsourced" T3blog" t3pages etc.
> All those good initiatives brought together on ONE TYPO3.org website
> would be best for us all here.

It's very hard to integrate things on the current web site. I have good 
hopes for the new site, new server to make it easier to integrate features.

Kind regards / met vriendelijke groet,

Jigal van Hemert.

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