[Typo3-dev] The donation issue - please join this debate!

[Stig Nørgaard Færch]

Georg Kuehnberger wrote:
  > - Glad to be part of TYPO3 for quite some time by now I know:
>         - Significant developments are not done by 10$ (even not 400x 
> 10$) contributions, but rather by significant contributions by a few;
>                 >> which leads me to: forget those group-actions on 
> large scale

So you say that there are not enough people willing to donate small amounts?
Large Scale? You mean core development?
What about other projects like smaller extensions and the TemplaVoila 
extension?

>                 >> and forget about the idea that yet another new tool 
> would change the real-world-contribution-situation;

Yet another? Has anything new like this been tried in the Typo3 community?
I don't think we should just forget about new ways to do things even 
before they are tried out. There are Typo3 people out there who are 
willing to donate small amounts to different projects/extensions. But I 
also think that there are reasons to why they don't, which can be solved 
by things like fundable.org.

>         - Transparence is essential:
>                 >> this is / was already done on .com/ .org (I once saw 
> it but don't find it anymore - was it deleted) similar to: 
> http://www.skyrix.de/en/produkte/BYF/project_state.php

Yes, I do agree very much on this. You should be able to follow the 
development state.
I also think that we could attract more people to Typo3 in general if 
development activity was more visible.

> BTW:
> Me thought, we do have a CMS for realtime update of websites ... having 
> a look at the ammount of content and frequency of change at eg. 
> http://www.skyrix.de/en/produkte/BYF/project_state.php I'd guess we 
> don't need yet another tool.

Don't understand what you are saying here.

> Just my two toughts following the subjects imperative;
> g night g

Thanks for your contribution to the discussion.

/Stig


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> At 14:46 18.08.2005, Valery Romanchev wrote:
> 
>> Hi Robert
>>
>> > I didn't know moneybookers and at the first glance I really
>> > like them! Their terms and conditions [1] fit on two pages
>> > and they only want 1% per transfer with 0,50? maximum.
>> >
>> > Does someone have experiences with moneybookers?
>> >
>> > [1] http://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=terms
>>
>> I use moneybookers since january 2005 for getting payments from clients
>> (from Germany and Finland)
>>
>> You see a lot of good things. All this true.
>>
>> About the problems:
>> 1) Credit Card verification (especially for USA guys) .
>> Moneybookers ask to send him scan of Credit Card.
>>
>> 2) If you have a problem - the best way to solve it is to call them by
>> phone.
>> (one time my account was suspended due to wrong  data of my birthday, 
>> this
>> was solved after phone call)
>>
>> 3) Withdraw limit. This can be mayor problem.
>> As I know, it can be set to $500/month (or even $200 )  and can be 
>> lift up
>> after some month of usage.
>>
>> In general: moneybookers has good reputation in Russia and in UK.
>> Some UK and Germany guys accept hosting payment by moneybookers and 
>> they are
>> happy.
>> And this guys are strongly not like PayPal.
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Best regards,
>> Valery Romanchev
>> freelance TYPO3 web-developer
>> http://www.typo3lab.com
>> Email: romanchev at list.ru
>> Phone: +7 (095) 370-84-08
>> Moscow, Russia
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