[TYPO3-hci] Kickoff: TYPO3 4.1 (suggestions)

[Dmitry Dulepov]

Hi!

Robert Markula wrote:
> I don't want to insult anyone, but reading your post makes me a angry. 
> It's a slap in the face for people with disabilities.

Well, this is how you feel about it. I feel different. I do not want 
wars but I assume I can say anything that can be useful unless it 
violates laws.

You can ignore my posts if you want.

> I work with people with all kinds of disabilities, and as Christopher 
> thankfully pointed out, to be disabled does not mean to be blind. There 
> are hundreds, if not thousands of other - some minor, some major - 
> disabilities as well, that are a barrier if you want to browse the web 
> or work with a CMS.

So, it is a barrier? And we are going to overcome it but keep BE modern 
for others.

> I know actual techies in all kind of expertises (meaning: not limited to 
> programmers, webdesigners et al) who were experts in their field and - 
> due to an accident or an illness - are suddenly thrown out their old 
> life and disabled to a lesser or larger degree. This can happen to 
> anyone, even you and me, anytime, withour prior warning.
> Do YOU want to tell them "hey poor little guy, that was bad luck, now 
> say good bye to all that you've learned and maybe even lived for, throw 
> away your old life, do something that better matches your disability. 
> You are not worth it to help you making your life easier. Go join a 
> self-help group."

Yes, I understand all this. I had problems with eyes when I was small 
and later I could not walk for several months while my friends were 
playing football. I still have problems with health and cannot do many 
things that others can. You can think about it like about certain 
disabilities. However I do not pretend to do anything that I cannot do 
due to physical conditions. I found myself other things to live with. I 
am not football player but a [good] software programmer. And I am not 
asking anyone to make football accessible, I do what I can and leave 
footbal to those who want to play it. I do not feel that I can limit 
them in any way just because I may want to play football. This is my 
philosophy: do what you can, do it well, do not spoil life to others 
with my problems. Is it bad?

> The aircraft cockpit example is a bit narrow. You/Lars are thinking 
> about _administrators_ using the BE only, whereas I think of actual 
> editors or normal BE users as well. And in companies and government 
> institutions there are hundreds of them. Also with disabilities.

Administrators perform only slightly more functions than editors.

> Having FE-Editing only, as Benjamin Mack suggested, is no solution, as 
> e.g. in my organisation our editors work mostly with tt_news records in 
> SysFolders.

Well, it is bad that many popular extensions still have only List module 
for record editing. This should fixed, of course.

-- 
Dmitry Dulepov
http://typo3bloke.net/

"It is our choices, that show what we truly are,
far more than our abilities." (A.P.W.B.D.)