[TYPO3-hci] OT: Realnames? (was: Re: HCI list post statistics)

[Kasper Skårhøj]

Thanks Michael,

I think Christopher made my point when he wrote "I've been posting to  
the lists for almost /four years/ without using a last name" because  
obviously I didn't notice! A single first name gives me absolutely no  
clue you have been around for so long - I automatically think you are  
probably a newbee that still wants to be a little anonymous and over  
four years "Christopher" would have been 10 different people as far  
as I'm concerned.

So, I just don't see the point - from Christophers perspective! Why  
would he like to stay anonymous, why would it be attractive to not  
make a footprint in the communitys memory for so long?

Anyway, I will respect the right to be a "no-body" on the list. When  
it comes to collaboration with me personally, no one can expect me to  
interact with anyone that prefers anonymity. Have you ever answered  
the phone and someone says, "Hi, its Thomas" and you wonder "Which  
Thomas of the 50 I know"? Of course this happens only when a "rare"  
thomas calls and there is no clue in the voice who it is, but I'm  
always embarrassed that someone expects themselves to be the only  
person with that first name and put the load on me to figure out who  
they are. And on mailing lists, skype etc., there is no voice to  
qualify the name further.

(And yes, I do have the same principal problem with "JoH" which  
suffers from the same anonymity effect in my memory, but has at least  
made it to fame now. I just don't get why you make it harder on  
yourself...)

I googled "Christopher TYPO3 bedlam" and figured you must be  
"Christopher Torgalson".



- kasper


On Oct 12, 2006, at 1:26 , Michael Stucki wrote:

> Hi Christopher & Kasper,
>
> just to make this clear: Although I am the list admin my comments  
> are not
> ultimate decisions. I/we have never excluded anyone from a mailing  
> list
> because he didn't want to follow the mailing list rules. [1]
>
> Personally I don't like short names for two reasons: They make it  
> difficult
> to memorize a person, and they are not unique. I think your name  
> provides a
> good example for this, there are many Christophers, so I can only  
> guess if
> this is a different person than you...
>
> I have given up discussing about realnames with Joey, and probably  
> I didn't
> even start discussing this with you ever ;-) After all, I'm very  
> happy that
> both of you are so active contributors on our mailing lists that  
> this is
> probably worth ignoring the lack of a realname.
>
> But on the other side, I still find it stubborn that you seem not  
> willing to
> change it since you (both) are the only one(s) in thousands...
>
> - michael
>
> [1] The only exception are people who use auto-responders, of course.
>
>> Hi Christopher
>>
>> While "JoH" is kind of unique, "Christopher" is not. Should any other
>> guy named "Christopher" not require the same right as you then? It
>> doesn't matter if you posted for four years, I want to know who you
>> are when browsing the list. _Everyone_ else in the TYPO3 community
>> has agreed to this, you should too. Protection of privacy? Come  
>> on...!
>>
>> However, I have now put Michael Stucki in copy since he has authority
>> to decide if you "must" to it to be on the list, if he says you have
>> to, you have to. Otherwise you can decide for yourself if you wish to
>> meet my wish.
>>
>> According to the http://typo3.org/community/mailing-lists/mailing-
>> list-rules-guidelines/ page this is what is said about name (under
>> suggestions):
>>
>> "Names - please use your real name - we're a friendly list that likes
>> to know whom we're talking!"
>>
>>
>> - kasper
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2006, at 18:55 , Christopher wrote:
>>
>>> Kasper Skårhøj wrote:
>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> (@"Christopher" - please add your last name, I believe its against
>>>> our
>>>> rules to be anonymous and you are _not_ the only Christopher
>>>> around. For
>>>> "JoH" its different due to his year-long participation in the
>>>> community)
>>>
>>> Kasper, I've been posting to the lists--usually answering
>>> questions--for
>>> almost /four years/ without using a last name. My surname is easy
>>> enough
>>> to discover if you're truly interested (and is always included in
>>> off-list messages).
>>>
>>> Protecting one's privacy is difficult enough on the internet so  
>>> IMO a
>>> community rule /requiring/ participants to divulge more personal
>>> information than is strictly necessary is a bad rule.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Christopher
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>>
>> - kasper
>>
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- kasper

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