[TYPO3-dam-devel] RFC #9552: Clean Up Click Menu

[Uschi Renziehausen]

Hi dan,

>>
>> I tested this one with 4.2dev
>> there are still some issues with this one:
>> 1) The label 'Open in new window' does not show up in the context menu
> 
> Did you patch the language file as well? That's where the label is.
>

I patched it, but the new label did not end up in the right place.

In the meta section it became a sibling of labelcontext instead of a 
child and in the data section it became a childnode of <languageKey 
index="dk">. Don't know whether this is a mistake in the patch itself or 
a result of my trying to apply too many patches at once, corrected it 
manually now and the label is there.


>> 2) Some labels are bad:
>>    a) 'Edit record' should be 'Edit meta data'
> 
> I think Core label is used here, and I think it makes sense. You're 
> editing a record, which gives you more options than just changing 
> metadata. From the admin point of view, I would prefer edit record. From 
> the editors, Edit metadata makes more sense.
> 
>>    b) 'Open in new window' should be 'Edit record in new window' or 
>> 'Edit meta data in new window'
> 
> Too long (see our discussion in the DAM list) - we went with a short one 
> "Edit (new window)"
> 

Better too long than too cryptic and inconsistent. You need at least to 
know what the hell you are going to edit, regardless whether you are an 
editor or an admin. Will try out the look and feel of a longer label.

>>
>> I do see a certain reason in what Steffen G. says:
>> Currently info is always last in the first section of the context menu.
>> Now editing a file is only possible for certain file types and is 
>> second last, therefore the info icon does not keep its position but is 
>> shifted as well. So the stuff that has to do with meta data should 
>> always be kept together.
> 
> I'm not seeing it - can you describe in detail? What file is that for?
> So is there a consensus that "Show" should be first, followed by Edit?
>

I attach a screen shot to clarify what I mean. For all file types but 
the editable ones the info icon is the 4th item in the first optgroup. 
But if you are on the icon for e.g. a css file the info icon moves to 
the 5th position because the option 'Edit file' sneaks in then.

I see two possible solutions:

a) move the Edit file option to the file operation section because it 
affects the file.
b) make the Edit file option the last one in the first optgroup.

Both ways will leave the position of the info option untouched.

I would like to make another note on this one: In more than 50% of the 
cases I click the info icon in list view because I want to know the file 
type! This is because the title field is used in list view which 
deprives you of that IMPORTANT piece of information. I made a bt entry 
for that one and would like to discuss that one in project list.

Prosit, Uschi

>>
>> Uschi
>>
>>> Dan Osipov
>>> Calkins Media
>>> http://danosipov.com/blog/
>>>
>>> Steffen Gebert wrote:
>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>
>>>> Dan Osipov wrote:
>>>>>> BT Reference: http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=9552
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Problem: This patch cleans up the click menu in the list view. See 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> bugtracker for more info.
>>>>
>>>> two things:
>>>>
>>>> - inconsistency of menu labels: File: View file, Display information
>>>> List: Show, Info
>>>> Both menus should use the same labels.
>>>>
>>>> - would prefer "Show" as first entry in List module. Although this 
>>>> might not matter in List view of List module, it's an annoyance for 
>>>> me in Thumbnail view to always search for the show menu entry.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Steffen

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