[TYPO3-content-rendering] Accessibility: File Links

[Patrick Broens]

Hey,

On 18-8-11 16:02 , Patrick Broens wrote:
> Hey,
>
> On 18-8-11 13:17 , ben van 't ende wrote:
>> Heyla,
>>
>> Can't that be a generic like just mentioning "file: filename.odt" and
>> when using
>> FAL taking the title? How do you suggest to fill the alt attribute atm
>> then? By
>> hand? There needs to be some kind of default.
> Nope, it's about the icon/thumbnail in front of the file link. It has to
> be described, so people know what the icon is all about. Your suggestion
> could be the title, but not the alternative text. It does not tell
> anything about the icon/thumbnail
>
> It could be generic like "File link icon" / "File link thumbnail" when
> nothing has been filled, but filling an alt automatically does not make
> it that accessible as it is supposed to be.
Just tried to have a generic one, with the file name, but WAVE (WCAG 
validation) does not like that as well (warning, not error). As a matter 
of fact, you are not allowed to have the same alt on the page and it's 
not recommended to use a file name.

But on the other hand, like for regular images, people SHOULD fill this 
field properly when they want to be accessible. You can't force that.

Patrick
>
> Patrick
>>
>> gRTz
>>
>> ben
>>
>>
>>
>> On 18/08/11 12:38, Patrick Broens wrote:
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> For every icon there needs to be an entry, if you want to do it
>>> properly. This
>>> is what I'm doing right now. The same happens with images, if you
>>> need an alt
>>> for every image, you need to enter them all. This is going to be the
>>> same for
>>> the alt of the icons/thumbnails
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On 18-8-11 12:05 , ben van 't ende wrote:
>>>> Heyla Patrick,
>>>>
>>>> Exciting work going on. I would assume that you can generate the alt
>>>> automatically now and it is no longer a question of how to do it?
>>>>
>>>> gRTz
>>>>
>>>> ben
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 18/08/11 11:36, Patrick Broens wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Reading the BITV again, I discovered this needs to be a short
>>>>> description of the
>>>>> icon, not the link. This means for file icons, it should describe
>>>>> it is an icon
>>>>> for a certain file, for thumbnails this could be the alt for the
>>>>> image as usual.
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18-8-11 10:54 , Patrick Broens wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The cObj File Links, or in css_styled_content tt_content.uploads, can
>>>>>> produce icons for the type of file or a thumbnail when it is an
>>>>>> image.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently for these images there is no possibility to have an alt
>>>>>> attribute, which we need according to BITV.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Wenn Abbildung und Text zwei unabhängige Links auf das selbe Ziel
>>>>>> sind,
>>>>>> dann kann das alt-Attribut dagegen nicht leer bleiben. Denn gängige
>>>>>> Screenreader verlassen sich nicht darauf, daß leere alt-Attribute
>>>>>> sachgerecht eingesetzt werden, sie behandeln bei Bedienelementen
>>>>>> leere
>>>>>> wie fehlende alt-Attribute und lesen den Dateinamen der Grafik /
>>>>>> die URL
>>>>>> der Zieldatei vor." [1]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now my question:
>>>>>> How to construct this alt attribute? Do we have one field where
>>>>>> you can
>>>>>> enter the alt for all the icons at once, like "click here to open
>>>>>> <filename>", where filename is inserted? Or do we give the
>>>>>> opportunity
>>>>>> to enter this for each single file, without inserting the filename?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would opt for the first solution, but we currently don't have that
>>>>>> anywhere else in the core. The second solution is already used, for
>>>>>> instance for images.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://testen.bitvtest.de/index.php?a=di&iid=1001&s=n
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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