[TYPO3-community] About CRUD

[Dawid]

Hi,

i'm preparing to start building some quite big typo3 based community site,
and i must say that your extension sounds like hope for me. I'm still
looking for any good working community extension witch i could customize to
my needs, for example:
Client wants the community users to have a blogs, the blogs working on
WordPress application and now my question is... Is there any sense? I know
the power of Wordpress but i'm not sure about the integration with typo3
posibilities.

I'm quit worried because i never built such a big site, aditionaly, i don't
know the community extensions and i'm looking for any information.

David

2007/8/31, Frank Thelemann <info at datenpioniere.de>:
>
> Frank Thelemann wrote:
> > hi michael,
> >
> > so i will give you an overview about crud:
> > -based on access control lists and the c.r.u.d. programming concept:
> > -acl-options for any fields from a TCA for
> create,retrieve,update,delete
> > -acl-options for access to actions from a controller
> > -acl-roles based on these options
> > -acl-groups basded on acl-roles
> > -to the acl-groups you can assign fe-groups
> What about rights on rowsets - which means that I can define access
> control on a single record of a database table? This was one of the
> main
> problems I faced, because it's not even available in the Backend.
> (For Example if you are running multiple instances of tt_news, every
> time you put your plugin on a page, a editors gets a list of all
> categories, not only the ones he should see in his sysfolder).
>
> >>i think what you mean is a local right. you need acl-rights on tt_news
> and tt_news_cat. crud has an internal user table in wich is definded:
> the pid(page,sysfolder), the fe-user, the acl-role from the user, and
> the acl-group wich the user is member.so if you have an newsfolder wich
> you assigned to the plugin, you can create on your newslisting page a
> user acl-usertable entry with his aclgroup,pid and his aclrole. rights
> for singlerecords works only if the user is the creator=owner of the
> record. if you set the user as owner on the records, then it works,and
> you can define multiple owners. with that conept you can create
> usergroups with "local" rights for news, comments etc. with the backend
> has crud nothing to do. did i understand you?
>
> > -if you need no login, you can define a anonymous group
> > -you can define global(pagewide) rights, and lokal
> > rights(usergroups,foren,etc)
> > -based on MVC and PHP5
> Does this mean, you implemented your own MVC Framework or is it based
> on
> lib/div?
>
> >>yes of course is all based on lib/div, what else ;-)
>
> > -crud provides only models and views
> What about controllers? Are you using another framework as a base-layer?
> > -the views extending the phpTemplateEngine with fe-editing features
> > -the models rendering the TCA and rightsmanagement
> > -no more need of hooks, because every important functions has an pre,-
> > and postfunction, and furthermore php5 oop
> > -all like the rendering of rights,forms, listings etc is done by crud
> What about rendering of external plugins? I don't want to reimplement a
> gallery or a forum in my community extension, rather use existing ones
>
> >>well your galerie has a database and so it has an TCA, and crud works!
> and special for old plugins(pi_base) plugins is crud__marker.see last
> post..
> -
> do you have a solution here?
> > -the programmer needs only implement his special logic
> > -the developer can define over TS own css,templates,locallangs,views
> and
> > models.
> > -its possible to define for any fields special error messages for all
> > possible errros and much more
> > -including logging,edit-locks and edit-histories
> >
> > at the moment you can use crud with all TCA fields wich you can create
> > with the extension kickstarter, exluding the tca type group, but comes
> > soon. crud__browser is a addon for crud wich provides a model and view
> > for listings and singleviews, with all features from crud. furthermore
> > exist crud__marker wich is outputfilter addon for crud. you can use
> for
> > example in your news listing template,for example
> > {{{UPDATE__TT_NEWS__###NEWS_PID###}}}. if the the fe user has the
> rights
> > comes an edit icon und the news, if not for example a message or
> > nothing. if the user has clicked on the edit icon crud renders and
> > validate the form, based on the acls and the tca. you can use these
> > markers in templates,TS or templavoila. crud__marker is fe-editing for
> > dummies;-), and extensions wich based on the pi_base.
> >
> > so that is all not an community but the base for cbs(community base
> > system) wich implements models and views for ratings, votings,
> comments,
> > foren, blogs what ever, because all is TCA based!
>
> Are these models generated on existing plugins? Or can I only access
> the
> data and not using the plugin's logic and rendering?
>
> >>both ways!
>
> with all that its very
> > easy to build community features likes registrations, blogs
> > userlistings, profiles and and and....
> >
> > to your questions:
> > -yes we will start a wiki for crud with examples and using
> > -in the next 2 weeks crud will be public on TER, so please wait so
> long
> > -and yes we need coding help, for implementing axaj,IRRE,flexforms,
> > completing TCA, and a backendmodul for the rightsmanagement (next
> steps)
> >
> > at the moment we cannot spend extra time for svn or docs, but
> questions
> > are welcome...
> >
>
> frank thelemann.
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