[TYPO3-english] Fork of Typo3 ?

Artemy Nikolsky artemy.nikolsky at gmail.com
Sun Feb 22 11:57:24 CET 2009


I do not think that you speak the full truth.
I`m support typo3 news site 2 year ago. 3500 lines of a configuration for 
tt_news written by different programmers.
Nearby 200.000 news in tt_new table and about 300 news categories.
 Pentium D 2,8GHz CPU/4Gb RAM, 4x7200rpm IDE HDD (RAID10)
apache1.3/mod_php for typo3, lighthttpd for static file - max 30 request to 
type3 per se
 (i ` m not sure, it is possible already had manual optimisation mysql 
tables and querys)

Theoretically: 30 request * 60 sec * 60 min * 24 hours = 2 592 000 user/day

But this bad theory because we had one big problem. After published good 
news a server received more than 3000 page request per second lasting not 
more than a half an hour. It gave many competing apache child processes 
(load average> 20), severe swopping, dead 80 port and many the lost money.

I tried squid before apache, it became much better, but it had minor 
problems, with job of voting, comments and etc.

The fast decision for such loading was to make dirty patches typo3 core and 
ext for active use memcached, to remove apache and lithhttpd, to start such 
scheme:

static file =================\\
                                                     \\
typo3/php-fpm demon <= fcgi => nginx  === <> more 20000 request/sec
\\                                                     //
 \ =====> memcached  ======>//

I think that the author of it tread had similar experience.

I cannot present attendance peaks if you have on the average 1M daily hits 
because the site described by me had on the average 50000 daily hits

You use many servers?

"Dan Osipov" <dosipov at phillyburbs.com> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ 
ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ: 
news:mailman.1.1235236896.4054.typo3-english at lists.netfielders.de...
> This is completely false. We run a news portal with close to a million 
> daily hits on TYPO3 core.
>
> Dan Osipov
> Calkins Media
> http://danosipov.com/blog/
>
> Konstantin wrote:
>> Sorry, but TYPO3 coudnt be applied to site with one million visited page 
>> per day. Typo3 has powerfull engine to quick creating site in style: 
>> "create and forget". If you want create news portal or power social 
>> network - you should use other engine. So true. I know what i say becouse 
>> i develop sites on Typo3 from version 3.6 and translate more than 400 
>> pages documentation of Typo in russian language such as doc_core_inside, 
>> doc_core_api and others.
>>
>> So - i take from Typo only backend wich is very strict, as all german :) 
>> No more...
>>
>> This why i created separate CMS and it can be part of Typo if become core 
>> :).
>>
>> Hope future versions of Typo core will plan (also) people who worked with 
>> highload projects.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Steffen Muller" <typo3 at t3node.com> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ 
>> ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ: 
>> news:mailman.1.1235159141.20310.typo3-english at lists.netfielders.de...
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> On 20.02.2009 19:29 Dmitry Dulepov wrote:
>>>> It is already clear. No need to be more clear...
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think he simply didn't get the idea of GPL, commons and copyright.
>>>
>>> Konstantin, I guess you have worked hard and tried your best.
>>> Now take a breath and read a bit about commons, maybe something by
>>> Lawrence Lessig or Richard Stallmann, which I personally like very much.
>>> Have a look at their idea of copyright and property. Then think about
>>> why we all contribute our knowledge, our time and creativity to TYPO3
>>> and share it with others. Why we don't claim to be "owner", thus making
>>> our living with TYPO3 - without owning and without controlling it. GPL
>>> and free software is also about fairness in a maybe unfair world and it
>>> has also proven to be stable in an economic driven world. We all
>>> collaborate in a project to make our own profit. And we do that by
>>> sharing things, which allows others to profit, too.
>>> There's no need to refactor TYPO3 on your own for the sake of "owning"
>>> and licensing. It's much more efficient to spend your efforts for TYPO3
>>> and contribute to this great project. You and the community could
>>> benefit much more.
>>>
>>> I hope that was not too pathetic. :)=
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> cheers,
>>> Steffen
>>>
>>> http://www.t3node.com/
>> 




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